Atar

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This is the start of a biography about my spirit guide, Atar.

So first I’ll tell you a bit about myself :smile:

As far back as I can remember I’ve had at least one imaginary friend, at any given point. I used to pretend that imaginary characters would come and visit me, and I would spend a lot of time with them, talking, playing, doing what ever. Then I got really into dragons :dragon: so I would always have at least one dragon friend with me. Most of the time I would come up with a story behind why they were with me, and where they came from, etc.

I remember Max was my first dragon imaginary friend. He had grey and white fur, and he was the size of a big dog. Later on came Roy, his brother, who was black and white. Then there was Luna, who had purple eyes, light brown fur, and the body of a kangaroo, with wings. I had a group of 10 or more at one point lol :grouphug:

Max was my main focus I think. He was almost always with me. He had a fun sense of humour (usually very sarcastic :razz:). He was always supportive and helpful too.

Every once in a while one or more of them would leave, but usually only for a little while. They’d almost always come back. It felt very real when they left, like a part of me had to take a break for a while… So I missed them when they were gone :meh:

Then, after a long time, they all went away. I didn’t visualize them trailing along
behind me anymore or telling me stories or jokes, or helping me out in any way. I knew they were still there, exactly as I knew their personalities and traits, but not in the bodies I pictured them in, or talking in the voices I gave them. Their guidance was and is always available to me. It never went away.

It was at this age I often thought to myself that I shouldn’t still be imagining friends that weren’t real, I should be more mature by now… (Now I realize that my imagination is just as real as anything else.)

These beings I created with my very essence, were my very thoughts, ideas, creations, words, actions, Me.

Now, please don’t read this under the impression I have some sort of multiple personality disorder :razz: I do not. These are just my beliefs. These beings are like your instincts, that little voice in the back of your head, your gut, your insight, your intuition, your clairvoyance, your empathy, your creativity, your imagination, your subconscious, your awareness, your connection to everything, your spirit guide, dream guide, mentor, teacher, friend, soul, ghost, god, your guardian angel, the source, and the essence of everything.

So…

The summer before grade 9 I went to work with my mom a lot, and spent most of the day on the computers :user: … playing games, looking stuff up, socializing, etc. I had just read the whole “his dark materials” series by Phillip Pullman (The Golden Compass, The Subtle Knife, and The Amber Spyglass). As you now know, my entire life, I’ve let myself go wild and run away with my imagination… So I found myself irresistibly drawn to the idea of real-life imaginary friends lol… daemons (no, not demons :razz:).

I did some research, to find out where else daemons appeared in text around the world and their history over time. I found out that the daemon, is in essence, exactly what my imaginary friends were to me. A guide, a friend, a teacher, an entity even, found inside or outside of your self. Some say daemons are spirits, invisible and unhearable by everybody else (spirit guides, dream guides…). Some say they can be familiars, which are animals that do the biddings of witches, and usually join them in rituals and spell work… Their partner in magic.

Everything I was reading I found absolutely captivating. I was very excited to meet my ‘daemon’ for the first time lol. I didn’t realise then that I’d known him my whole life anyway!

I went to this site that was all about the golden compass. It had a little quiz you could take, to find out what your daemon would be (if they were ‘real’, of course :cool_raz: ). I took it, and mine was a sparrow. I remember the first time picturing him like that, flying next to me… He hasn’t changed since :smile: I named him Rannen. I began to picture him everywhere I went, just like the dragons. He was a lot like Max.

Not to long afterwards I changed his form to a griffon.

After a month or two I decided to change his name too, after I found this site called the daemonpage. I looked at some other people names for their daemons, and one that caught my eye was kaemeon. So I copied it, and renamed my daemon, Kaemian.

Kaemian… (He is the same as Rannen) I‘ll tell you a bit about him. Most of the time, he took the form of a black cat with green eyes. No reason why really, that’s just how I saw him. He changed all the time, mostly to different cats, birds, dogs, or dragons.

He could tell the future. Either that or he could make things happen. He did it quite a lot in grade 9. He told me something was going to happen, and it happened, every time. :seer:

We talked all the time. I got better and better at visualizing him, and hearing his
voice.

After about a year and a half, I started to think again, maybe I should move on from all this imaginary friend nonsense. I knew that almost nobody else my age (14) had an imaginary friend anymore, so I began to lose touch with Kaemian. Then there was a lot of drama that I made up in my mind. He left, and wasn’t with me for a while. I was very upset… But I needed to learn that he would always come back, no matter what. All that was taking a break was my tireless imagination. He was always there, but not as the familiar black cat with bright green eyes.

I decided I wanted to change his name again. I thought about a few names in the past, but none of them stuck. So I decided to meditate for the first time (This is when I was 15). :om:

I pictured myself in our place (a small open valley with fields of long yellow grass, a narrow stream running straight through the middle, and a small old red tree a few feet away from the river, right in the center of the valley)

I was flying through the valley, over looking everything :fly: and Kaemian was flying next to me as a bird. I landed next to the tree, and he landed on one of it’s branches, as a cat. He stared at me with his piercing emerald green eyes and I asked him, “what should our new name be?” and after a few moments he said, “Atar.”

Then my grandmother called and snapped me out of my wobbly first-time meditation. I talked to her for a little while, and then went online to look up what Atar meant.

Atar, I found out, is the Zoroastrian concept for “burning and unburning fire” and “visible and invisible fire”. It means heat, thermal energy. It manifests in the form of fire or some other luminous source when visible.

Now, the burning and unburning, and visible and invisible, is what I found Fascinating! I am the corporeal part of me… I can be seen, touched and heard. Atar is the incorporeal part. He can’t be seen through your physical eyes, or heard by your physical ears, or touched by your physical hands.

I don’t recall ever hearing the word Atar before!

I kept reading, and there are different types of Atar…

  1. atar berezi-savah: “The highly beneficent atar”, qualified in Zend texts as “the fire that eats food but drinks no water”, and the kind of fire that burns in an Atash-Behram, the highest grade of fire temple.
  2. atar vohu-fryana: “The atar of good affection”, later qualified as “the fire diffusing goodness”, and “the fire that consumes both water and food”.
  3. atar urvazishta, “the atar of greatest bliss”, later qualified as “the fire of happy life”, and “the fire that drinks water but eats no food”.
  4. atar vazishta, “the atar most swift”, later qualified as the fire in clouds, i.e. lightning, and as “the fire that neither drinks water nor eats food”.
  5. atar spenishta, “the atar most holy”, described in “Zend” texts as “the fire of prosperity” and as the spiritual fire burning before Ohrmuzd.

For me, Atar is Atar Spenishta

So Atar, the new name, and his eye color was changed to the colors of a fire.

I am now in grade 11, I’m 16, and I’ve known Atar (as all of my creativity, imagination, inspiration, and motivation) for almost three years.

I am on the best terms with myself, as I’ve ever been. Just recently, I went through kind of a crazy break up… It really messed with my head, but everything is way better now. I’m devoting myself to everything else I enjoyed in life before, but didn’t make time for because of other people. I’m playing guitar more, singing more, making more friends, and I’m focusing more and more on lucid dreaming and learning about myself, and Atar. :good:

Me and Atar have a really good thing going for us now, it’s very balanced and open, and very loving :hugs: I’ve recently come to realise Atar is more than just me, to me. The connection I have with him is my very own link to all the knowledge in the universe :universe: He is my guide through this life and all that comes with it. If there’s one thing he’s taught me, is to love, and be loved, with no conditions attached… :love: LOVE, is always the answer. I’m more open than I’ve ever been, to all the things he can show me. Life is good :yay: :good:

I posted this to inspire. To create, to imagine, to explore, to keep an open heart and mind, to love yourself, and all things. :hug:

I’ll post more soon!

With love,
Zoë and Atar :wave: :yinyang:

I am glad you have found a companion and friend. When we create entities, they slowly grow and absorb what you give them and what is around them, until they become their own spirit. It sounds like you made a lot of these as a child.

One can find guides, or create them, either way, if it helps you, and guides you, then it is a good.

I myself do not have a “guide” so to speak, but I have two allies that I have accepted (Found and integrated). One is a feline, the other a bird. I prefer not to speak too much about them, but that’s just my own thing.

During one of my journeys the other night, I came upon a strange, yet wonderful being who I believe may guide me in some way, but I know she is open to all, she is not just “my” guide.

Amazing. Truly amazing. :smile:

I was never one to have imaginary friends. I always kind of felt like I was on my own, you know, on the outside looking in. Like there was no one out there like me or could ever understand me. I have a wicked imagination, but I’ve never quite been able to have someone - even someone who was all in my head - who understood me. So yeah, I’m kinda jealous. :razz: Good for you, though, for finding a friend.

Ever read What We May Be by Piero Ferucci? Chapter 4 presents the concept of sub-personalities, that sound a lot like spirit guide meditations.

Ah, I loved the His Dark Materials series, at least before Pullman got on his soapbox and seemed to forget about actual storytelling. Too bad, the world-building was brilliant.

I always wondered why it was considered insane, or dangerously and negatively unconventional, for people to talk to themselves. It’s healthy to keep in touch, isn’t it? And if it’s from somewhere outside, all the better.

Very interesting, it has opened a different door for me.

This has to do with personality and my belief is that; we are what we repeatedly do (quoting Aristotle), an example of this could be, a person killing another person.

As we all should know by now, the cause does not justify the deed/act, so the person would still be concidered as a murderer.

the question now is, are we humans able to store multiple personalities in our brains?
Or is it all just the same personality?

What is more interesting is that, does the actual fact of having an “external” personality such as a daemon become a different personality?

The great wonders lies in the fact that you are now, communicating with yourself, instead of putting up an act for someone else.

Dazino, you made a good point when saying: “When we create entities, they slowly grow and absorb what you give them and what is around them, until they become their own spirit.”

would be cool if our brain has the capacity to have more than one separate personality without interfering and influencing eachother.

Would this mean that we could change our personality step by step if we would want to? Or is the personality you changed to already your personality, and therefore enabling us to access our different side of the very same personality.

Do we even have a personality?

OOOOOORRRR maybeeee, it is just the super-ego that is spooking, meaning that the thing with different personality and that the entities we create would grow into an own unique personality would be stated as wrong.

A good example would be:

Lets assume now that I made an imaginary daemon, then the daemon would react and respond according to how I think it would react/respond, even though we might not be aware of this, our subconsciousness would “provide” us this.

It is nevertheless an interesting aspect! Hope you can find a good solution to it. :smile:

Very inspiring Zoë :content:

Very inspiring story. In some aspects, your relationship with Atar sounds like mine with my guide Siberia. I also am like you in that as far back as I can remember I have always had an imaginary friend (or three).

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Alright well I tried this and I created a daemon named Toren. For a while things were going great and he really started to become his own person. But I’ve always kinda had a ‘sixth sense’ (well not really but I don’t really know how else to explain it) and that causes a lot of problems. I always feel like something is intercepting my communication with Toren and are trying to get to me through him. Whenever I open up my mind like that, these ‘things’ get all over me, trying to find a way in. I’ve basically closed off my mind to stuff like this. Whenever I open it up, I always end up getting misleaded and stuck in the middle of some terrible, crazy, and even horrifying situation that I have no idea how to get out of.

If you’ve never experianced this, you’ll probably think I’m talking nonsense. Or you’ll think I’m crazy. Or both. :razz: But I swear I’m not… it’s a curse more than anything.

Well for those of you who aren’t like me and don’t have that ‘sixth sense’, you are lucky. Don’t waste your ability, and don’t take for granted what you have and can do. :meh:

Anyone heard of French explorer Alexandra David-Néel? In paranormal enthusiast circles, she’s famous for her account of trying a Tibetan meditation to create a spirit, called a tulpa. It sounds a lot like a daemon

Mme. David-Néel continues, more personally…

[spoiler]I shut myself in tsams and proceeded to perform the prescribed concentration of thought and other rites. After a few months the phantom Monk was formed. His form grew gradually fixed and lifelike looking. He became a kind of guest, living in my apartment. I then broke my seclusion and started for a tour, with my servants and tents.

The Monk included himself in the party. Though I lived in the open, riding on horseback for miles each day, the illusion persisted. I saw the fat tulpa; now and then it was not necessary for me to think of him to make him appear. The phantom performed various actions of the kind that are natural to travelers and that I had not commanded. For instance, he walked, stopped, looked around him. The illusion was mostly visual, but sometimes I felt as if a robe was lightly rubbing against me and once a hand seemed to touch my shoulder The features, which I had imagined, when building my phantom, gradually underwent a change. The fat, chubby-cheeked fellow grew leaner, his face assumed a vaguely mocking, sly, malignant look. He became more troublesome and bold. In brief, he escaped my control.

Once, a herdsman who brought me a present of butter saw the tulpa in my tent and took it for a live lama.

I ought to have let the phenomenon follow its course, but the presence of that unwanted companion began to prove trying on my nerves ; it turned into a “day-nightmare.” Moreover, I was beginning to plan my journey to Lhasa and needed a quiet brain devoid of other preoccupations, so I decided to dissolve the phantom. I succeeded, but only after six months of hard struggle. My mind-creature was tenacious of life.

There is nothing strange in the fact that I may have created my own hallucination. The interesting point is that in these cases of materialization, others see the thought-forms that have been created.

Tibetans disagree in their explanations of such phenomena ; some think a material form is really brought into being, others consider the apparition as a mere case of suggestion, the creator’s thought impressing others and causing them to see what he himself sees.[/spoiler]

Dion Fortune wrote about a similar experience in her Psychic Self-Defense book.

[spoiler]… The next type of psychic attack which we must consider is that conducted by means of artificial elementals. These are distinguished from thought-forms by the fact that, once formulated by the creative mind of the magician, they possess a distinct and independent life of their own… The life of these creatures is akin to that of an electric battery, it slowly leaks out by means of radiation, and unless recharged periodically, will finally weaken and die out. The whole question of the making, charging, recharging, or destruction of these artificial elementals is an important one in practical occultism.

The artificial elemental is constructed by forming a clear- cut image in the imagination of the creature it is intended to create, ensouling it with something of the corresponding aspect of one’s own being, and then invoking into it the appropriate natural force. This method can be used for good as well as evil, and “guardian angels” are formed in this way. It is said that dying women, anxious concerning the welfare of their children, frequently form them unconsciously.

I myself once had an exceedingly nasty experience in which I formulated a were-wolf accidentally. Unpleasant as the incident was, I think it may be just as well to give it publicity, for it shows what may happen when an insufficiently disciplined and purified nature is handling occult forces.

I had received serious injury from someone who, at considerable cost to myself, I had disinterestedly helped, and I was sorely tempted to retaliate. Lying on my bed resting one afternoon, I was brooding over my resentment, and while so brooding, drifted towards the borders of sleep. There came to my mind the thought of casting off all restraints and going berserk.

The ancient Nordic myths rose before me, and I thought of Fenris, the Wolf-horror of the North. Immediately I felt a curious drawing-out sensation from my solar plexus, and there materialised beside me on the bed a large wolf. It was a well-materialised ectoplasmic form. Like Z., it was grey and colourless, and like him, it had weight. I could distinctly feel its back pressing against me as it lay beside me on the bed as a large dog might.

I knew nothing about the art of making elementals at that time, but had accidentally stumbled upon the right method - the brooding highly charged with emotion, the invocation of the appropriate natural force, and the condition between sleeping and waking in which the etheric double readily extrudes.

I was horrified at what I had done, and knew I was in a tight corner and that everything depended upon my keeping my head. I had had enough experience of practical occultism to know that the thing I had called into visible manifestation could be controlled by my will provided I did not panic; but that if I lost my nerve and it got the upper hand, I had a Frankenstein monster to cope with.[/spoiler]

I kept saying it was good to converse with these things, but from those accounts if a person has deep-seated issues or lives with a lot of fear and insecurity, guides of the mind may well just throw it back up at them. When something like that happened to me, what I found really helped was, well, first a friend who had grown up following a strong tradition of how to handle things like that, so he cleared the air for a short while but very thoroughly. The only advice I can offer next is, instead of shutting out or running from the fear, to just hold it and stay with it and understand it.

Awesome story… I have made similar experiences with a couple of characters I invented. Basically, this message (to love) is the reason why I didn´t give up those weird phantasies - for if they are actually completely nonsense, then I still have learned a lot of it, so it wouldn´t matter. :smile: