Babies dream too, right?

I read somewhere that babies dream too. The thing is, you can only dream about things you know. So what would a baby be dreaming about? Can he/she lucid dream as well?

babies would dream about basic things, like feelings of objects, moving body parts etc. and shapes and colours as well, and they probably could become lucid, but even if they did, what would they do in a dream? Also, babies probably dont even have enough life experience to tell a dream from RL, so there would be no point to them becoming lucid

It’s gotta be so boring to be a unborn baby O_O…

i still remember a dream i had when i was about 3 i think. i was on a table in a blank room and a dog came up and bit me…that was about it

haha cool! i don’t remember many dreams from when i was about that age… :meh:

Babies are lucid in dreaming and in life… until they learn to be non-lucid.

Friends, family and society make a great effort on that direction.

at that stage, their brains arent complete enough to think anything, as nervous development takes about 7 months, so they cant think anything at that time, and their memory centers only develop at about 2-3 years, so you wouldnt remember anything anyway

Ha, wow. Probably the oldest dream I can remember was one that used to reoccur when I was a small child, a nightmare about a little boy eating glass, and I couldn’t stop him. :sad:

Hm I don’t rly get what you mean, mind to explain?

If you’re into reincarnation and this kind of stuff, then most babies have a LOT of things to be dreaming about - things we can’t access with out concious minds, but in sleep we can (and end up forgetting when awake).

I saw a show the other day about a 3 year-old who could tell his past life on a distant real-world island with many great details. It was by a serious channel, I can’t remember which. If you believe it or not that’s up to you :smile:

Simple: Babies have no self-talk… they don’t have a description of the world distorting their perception. They are lucid.

Then… they learn to be non-lucid. People talk babies out of lucidity.

If a child is the son of a shaman, for instance… the lost of lucidity is way milder than the average city dweller.

Shamans, unlike most people, talk to themselves very little (or not at all)

I’ll try to say that in a different way. Aldous Huxley writes that the brain is a sugar-driven machine that filters our perception in order for us to survive better. He believes each individual has the ability to have unlimited perception, but the brain narrows it so we can focus on the “here and now”, and look for food, a job, to pass in school exams, etc…

Maybe what the Grand Speculator is saying is that babies are too young for their brains fo “filter” properly - so they are “lucid”, they see it all as it is (heightened perception). I don’t think he uses the term lucid in the exact same way most of us think of when we use it to say “lucid dream”.

Please point me out if I’m wrong, Grand Speculator.

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Actually we are in the “here-now” naturally… but by social conditioning our perception gets narrower.

It’s a natural tendency for survival purposes. We focus to hunt food, shelter and couples by means of judging situations and things.

As conditioned people, we regard that natural lucid state as heightened awareness, but in reality we are born with a great deal of awareness.

We loose it on the road, but we can get it back… and go even further down the road. :tongue:

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Hmm this is quite interesting… haha it’s funny how we used to be lucid all the time :smile: