Becoming Lucid in waking and dreaming state... (Very Long)

Beyond Dreaming
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That’s right! I said lucid in waking AND dreaming state… To become lucid in waking state, is to realize that your powers are as equally infinite as your powers when you’re sleeping state.

Where to begin…

     I'd like to start by introducing myself.. I'm a first time poster here, but a long time reader! I'll get to the main point though.. Does anyone else believe that the dream and waking state are the same thing? Only difference being that in the waking state, you have other perceptions that hold a foundation.. Let me start from my beginning.. I believe that one can achieve enlightenment, understanding of life, evolve, and full potential of one's mind has through breaking all the invisible limits and boundaries that hold a person back.
  
       Growing up in society has really constructed many invisible boundaries on my infinite mind. As a young child, I always remembered my dreams, and had lucid dreams without even knowing there was a name for it. But sometime around when I started school, my lucidity levels dropped severely.. Then dream recall also dropped severely.. and then the only dreams that I recalled, were the nightmares that woke me, or forced me to awake in the middle of the night!
  
        Also growing up in society (the planet's dream), took me away from the true meaning of life.. With the buffet of lies put in front of me, my perception of life became poisoned! I was striving to fit into this awkward mold in fear of rejection.. Then I also fell into the consumer, passive observer state.. Where I felt I couldn't do anything to change the world.. I could only accept the fate that was given to me..
 
          But around 3 years ago, after Sophmore year in highschool.. My friend pulled the blindfold off of my eyes! I realized that the feeling of being controlled, and confused were all in my mind. My friends and I started to have deep discussions about society, people, god (life), and dreams.. For 2 years, there was much talk and I truly felt that I was gaining much progress on my path to enlightenment.. But something was missing.
  
        I had a large pool of theory to draw from by 1 year ago, through lots of devestating experiences in my life (much learned though), more discussions and experimenting with drugs. But there was still something missing! Once I truly understood the pattern of life, I realized that I was held back by laziness and fear.. I was often finding excuses to squealch my dreams. I had begun to remember my dreams again during the last 3 years. I'm sure it had to do with my mind getting stronger and breaking more limits! I even had an occasional lucid dream here and there!
     
         This is where it get's very interesting.. As my waking life was getting better (leaning towards true intentions and filtering out societies beliefs) I began to have more power in my sleeping state. Breaking myself away from the pointless stress of the planet's dream, eased my sleep! It makes sense that having a more peaceful waking state will directly do the same for dreams. I then started to heal scars from the past that were holding me back in my waking state! I was learning more about myself and becoming more aware of what was restricting my potential! As I healed my scars and became more aware of the invisible walls, I began to break them in my waking life. I started taking stong actions and doing things that I was terrified to do! I opened up myself to a lot more people, putting my pride and ego down, making myself vulnerable, I stepped out of the comfort zone, and danced tigers and wolves! I persued my deep feelings for a girl.. that was the biggest step! 
   
          My life has taken a turn for the better, I feel that I'm getting closer to enlightenment.. I'm becoming less and less restrained by time and space..  fear and laziness. It all reinforced and stablized with the realization and acceptance that I am always in a state of dreaming. With that one affirmation, I was able to become lucid in my waking state more frequently! My ability to connect with other people has grown and my mind has opened up doors to the spiritual side.. 
   
          So I'm just wondering, did anyone else experience a similar path, or is on a similar path currently? I truly believe there is a direct corrolation between one's waking quality of life, and sleeping quality of life. A balance if you will.. Let's hear some more theories and ideas! A lot of my progress came from people making a difference.. A lot of my influence came from indulging myself in truth and life.. Like Siddhartha, The Four Agreements, Waking Life, The Matrix, Fight Club, Truman Show, The Wheel of Time, Pink Floyd, Tool, Led Zeppelin, SuperTramp... and so much more!! One can learn the the secrets to life from anything and everything... from a book, to music, to movies, all the way even to a rock. Anyway, this was a long post I know.. but hopefully we can get some great feedback! -DeyBwah
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Hi DeyBwah.

First I would like to say that I really enjoyed reading your post, it made me realise that there is a little life out there, not just ants with empty heads. I felt good reading it because it made me see that I’m not the only one trying to find a path in this life, or taking one. It’s wonderful to find someone who has discovered the same things as yourself, it helps you on your way, and strengthens you in your loneliness (which can be overwhelming.

All my life there has been something bothering me, something I couldn’t get my hands on. I was never religious or very scientific, I was a very avarage kid. I’ve read a lot over the years, been reading since I was five years old, but I never understood much of it, everything I read was just a story for me. There was no truth. Nothing which could make me respond to the words, nothing let me think.

Three years ago, I had an LD, and thought to myself that maybe there is more to it then this. Maybe there’s was something I was missing out on. It couldn’t be so plain and simple, there had to be more to life then growing up, marrying, having kids and dying. That’s where I started to rebel against higher powers. I couldn’t take it anymore, I felt so numb, there was nothing I could live for and nothing I could die for so the only thing that seemed reasonable was to rebel against something.

I experimented with drugs, had fun for a while, laughs and it took my mind of everything, but then I started to understand how things worked, I developed something in my head which I can’t explain, it feels like divine logic. Whenever I get stoned or think about existence much, I get into sort of a transe where I use this divine logic. Everything explains itself and I know how everything works, but sometimes I get to high and get a knock on the head, warnings and promises. There are great powers out there, but we can’t receive them now. Our minds are too small and weak, our souls are young and our skin is thin. We have to accumulate experience and experience to get out of here.

It’s hard to get used to this thought, and it’s difficult to accept the fact of eternity, but there’s nothing we can do about it. We have to learn to live with it, and we have to live in it. There’s no choice, there are always alternatives if your mind can’t handle it, but in the end there is no choice. This is how it is and we have to learn to love it, and we will. We will never continue unless we are prepared to, but that is our own choice, and if we want to continue, we have to do it ourselves and have patience.

Sorry, didn’t mean to write this long, and I guess I went a little off subject. About being lucid in real life, I have that and I feel lucky. I didn’t get lucid in the waking world until I got lucid in a dream. I started getting little flashes of awareness when I first started this whole thing and they began to grow in numbers and length. Now they last all day long and I am lucid nearly all of the time. It’s good to get a break from being awake in the waking world, sometimes I forget about eternity and things that I know for a few hours and it feels like I’ve been sleeping. It really does, and I couldn’t have lived without having that.

Thanks,

Gov

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DeyBwah, I believe there are many people on that very same path, possible variations of the same, and perhaps completely or partially false ones.

Sadly, it is very much underground. I’m still trying to find out what or who keeps it so and why? Television? news? religion? scientism? ignorance? lazyness?

keep us posted

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Don’t be sorry your post is long Gov! It’s awesome! When one puts aside fear and laziness, one also uses what life gave them. That goes to answer your question Pilot, about why it doesn’t reach past just underground! There are SO many people out there that know about “IT”.

The predicament is, there are few people actually doing something about it… They think about it, share with their friends, but it stops there… I’ve gained incredible progress by putting myself in complete vulnerability… Taking away pride, ego, judgement, and fear… My dreams are becoming clearer, and the lucidity levels are increasing… I’ve decided to add action to the theory I’ve learned. I hope more people get motivated to pursue their dreams! Live and breathe… remind yourself why you’re here…