It probably has to do with the level of lucidity you have. You seem to be lucky enough to get lucid and have a decent level of lucidity. Some people (myself included sometimes) when they get lucid it’s more of a feeling that it MIGHT be a dream, but the RC is then needed to be sure (sometimes even after the RC I’m not completely secure to fly out the window ).
I am definitely going to try this tonight, lets see how it goes
pure genius!!
Been trying this, but am always to tired and fall asleep almost instantly. Need to get more normal sleep before I can get lucid. This seems like it would be effective though.
Does anyone else find it REALLY hard to count in your head when you are tired?
When I attempt this technique in the early morning I sometimes lose count as early as 10, and then I retry once or twice and lose count again.
10? I sometimes lose count at 3 . It can be hard indeed, I don’t know what else to say…
This technique got me a pretty cool LD.
I was literally falling asleep but staying conscious. It was an amazing feeling, no SP though…
It happened when I woke up after some time sleeping and then immediately applied the technique.
Hey I just have a quick question. So if you wake up in the middle of the night you just lay there and try to count to 100? Or do you have to WILD? New to LD so this might be a dumb question
Basically you want to try to remain aware to some extent so that you bring with you some of that awareness into the dream.
You can do that in several ways, but counting in your head is one fairly popular way to remain aware.
Another classic is to repeat to yourself “the next time I’m dreaming, I will realize that I’m dreaming” over and over as you fall asleep, until you really feel that you mean it and have your mind clearly set on that intention.
Hi guys I’m back. (I’m the creator of this thread and technique).
I have been taking a long break from LDing, it has always been in the back of my mind as something to do however I haven’t got round to trying the technique much again. I’m really surprised (and pleased) that this thread keeps getting bumped up.
After reading some of the questions people have I thought I would explain the logic behind the technique as with many things I feel that understanding why it works/should work makes it much easier for you then to tweak it to work for you.
The whole technique revolves around the idea that when you wake up in the night you can fall back asleep very, very quickly and almost straight back into a dream. So therefore you can induce a false awakening easily. The counting was chosen as an idea because it can keep you relatively aware whilst alowing you to keep your mind awake and still let your body fall asleep, and also everyone can count in their heads its not a subjective task like some other techniques. You can then “wake up” and simply check whether in that brief period you were counting whether you had fallen asleep or not and whether you are now in a dream and thus LD’ing.
Hope that helps.
Sounds like a very interesting technique, and one that may hopefully work for me since I’ve had a few experiences of what seemed like going straight into NDs before while repeating mantras during MILD. I have a question though, how ‘aware’ should we be while doing this? Do we try to stay in a happy medium of aware but relaxed? Or try to stay wide awake mentally while the body drifts back off? Sorry if this has already been answered but I couldn’t find anything very specific. -I know LauriLindo said to be aware to some extent but with me it’s either all or nothing…or…is that where the difficulty lies?
I’d like to try this soon but if I’m trying too hard to be alert I could end up laying there for hours!
. But yeah, I think this is the most “basic” form of WILD, the first I ever read about when I started LD’ing. Although I do remember it not working well for me, it’s probably time I try it again
Precisely! This is the trickiest part of any WILD (no matter what approach you use (maybe excluding DEILD?)), finding the balance between too awake and too asleep. I myself when I try to WILD I end up staying awake for a long time untill I give up or, more commonly, just fall asleep and wake up later with no idea of what happened. Just a matter of practice, I believe, and probably depends on the person, it might just not be the right tech for some people and might work wonderful for others…
Well I decided to try this last night. Woke up after ~4hrs, got comfy, and started counting. Almost drifted off a couple of times but managed to count to 100, then 150, then 200. After that I found I was getting too awake and didn’t want to spend the rest of the morning getting back to sleep. The only weird thing I felt was an odd numbness/pins and needles type feeling all over. No HH/HI, and RCs said I was still awake, boo! I must admit though that I was very relaxed while counting. I’ll try this again soon and hopefully night do better next time.
Yeah, I kinda questioned whether I should put that bit in my post a couple of days ago, hmmn, but I will say that I have never found this variation of WILD elsewhere, there are lots of similar ones, however this one I find much simpler (however has a lower success rate), as you instead of trying to drift into a dream are trying to force a false awakening.
In reality this technique has probably been mentioned somewhere before somewhere, however I have yet to see it. So whilst I’m probably not the original creator of it I did think it up rather then just read it somewhere.
Hope that kinda makes sense.
Tried this last night, woke up at 5:15 in the morning. DId serveral attempts and they didn’t work. Then i thaught to myself “I woke up at 5:15 in the morning to have a lucid dream trough WILD so i will have a lucid dream”. I don’t remember alot after that except that I randomly got this really numb or paralized feeling. Then 2 seconds after that feeling occured it felt like my body was getting pushed. First my whole body got pushed to the right then my upper body got pushed upwards, like i was going into sitting position. I tried to roll on my side but it didn’t work. I don’t know how but i ended up in a dream . I was in my room near my desk. I was floating but that didn’t bother me cause i wasn’t lucid yet. In the dream i remember how i tried to fall asleep and that made me look at my hand. I had 6 fingers! I got lucid but as soon as i tried to float away (I had 0 gravity) I felt a heavy weight around my knee and there was a DC holding onto my leg . I then spent the whole dream ( very short) to get him off of my leg. I even tried to spawn a gun in my hand but it didn’t work ;. Does anyone know why this DC didn’t want me to explore???
I then spent the whole dream ( very short) to get him off of my leg. I even tried to spawn a gun in my hand but it didn’t work ;. Does anyone know why this DC didn’t want me to explore???
Did you try asking him?
About how many times does it take until you are in the LD using this technique on average?
Did you try asking him?
I never even thaught about even saying anything in the dream . If this happends another time i’ll ask the DC what he’s doing.
About how many times does it take until you are in the LD using this technique on average?
For me it worked the first couple of times and then stopped working, you can improve the technique the more times you do it, however it is so simple that it can easily work first time.
I will definitely try this. This sounds great!