Hey all, I’m really considering using Calea Zacatechichi as a dreaming supplement. I have some questions though. The capsules would be great, although are pretty pricey. I found a live plant of it for like 3-4 dollars which is a lot cheaper. If I were to smoke it, should I just smoke the straight leaves? or somehow dry them up and crush them prior to smoking it? Anyone have experience with it and would like to tell me the step by step process about it? that would be very much appreciated. Thanks all
As a note, the plant Calea Zacatechichi is listed as poisonous to humans by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) of the United States. In drug form, it is legal in most areas except for the state of Louisiana. It is highly recommended that members research this drug before attempting it.
From what I understand it can help increase dream recall and vividness. However, if you are going to use it I would highly recommend drinking as a tea rather than smoking it. Smoking anything, tobacco based or not, is extremely bad for your lungs’ health. It may give you some nice vivid dreams that way, but it is not worth your health.
As far as actually drying the leaves to make the tea, I have no clue .
For the best Calea effect/experience you should combine drinking tea with smoking leaves (it’s best not to mix it with tobacco or anything else, but still, as Rhewin said it is not good for your lungs, especially if you do it too often). In both cases you need dried leaves which you can either buy or get from a live plant and dry yourself in a dark place.
For a cup of tea you need about one to one and a half teaspoon of dried crushed leaves, that you put in a boiling water and let it boil for another 3-5 minutes. After that you take out the leaves and drink the tea. But be advised, that the tea is extremely bitter. Well, you’ll see by yourself.
Anyway, the capsules are a great idea, because there’s no bitter taste when you take them, but if you find them too expensive, tea and/or smoking will have to do.
You are welcome if you have any other question, otherwise best of luck.
I got interested in this herb because of this thread so I bought some dried leaves and tried it last night.
I made tea of half a liter of boiled water and about 5 grams of leaves. I let it rest for half an hour and drank half of it before going to bed. The first sip was okay, I thought ‘well if this is the vile taste they mean, I can live with it’, but with every sip the taste got worse and worse. Comparable with drinking highly concentrated paracetamol/acetaminophen tea… I started feeling a bit slow after about 15 minutes, but this seems to be right because when you’re awake it will make you feel slow. I then went to bed but coudn’t sleep at first because I had to use the restroom quite a lot… small bladder combined with too much tea is no good. When I finally lied relaxed on my bed I was waiting for a feeling I normally don’t feel or just feel slightly, I thought it woud be easier to get HI or HS and maybe even WILD, but nothing of this happened. I fell asleep and I woke up about 6 hours later and I didn’t recall any good dreams, just bits and pieces, so I got a little mad because usually when I wake up I have good dream recall. I drank the rest of the vile potion and tried to do some WILD. Unfortunately my WILD attempt failed and I fell back asleep. I dreamt a lot but no complete dreams, just bits and pieces and I got frustrated now. I woke myself up again and tried to do some WILD again and this time I was able to get some HI and HS so I tried to slip into a LD but somehow it wouldn’t work. Maybe I gave up on it already.
So after trying it for the first time I’m not so enthusiastic. Can’t really make a conclusion but as I experienced it, it made me less stable in my dreams, lots of bits and no complete dreams (felt like I was constantly running behind those bits to get a grip) and it didn’t give me more dreams or more recall and it didn’t make it easier for me to become lucid.
I am going to try it again tomorrow morning when I wake up around 7 and then go back to sleep. Just need to get through that vile taste (seriously vile, don’t underestimate… ) and hopefully it’ll do something for me then.
I actually poured in quite some honey but it still wasn’t enough to make it taste a little better…
I have a rectification to do. I forgot that I was also decreasing my medication intake and I think that not being able to sleep at first was caused by this. Last night I didn’t drink tea before going to bed, I made some tea to drink at around 7 am but I actually lied awake untill 7 am… quite frustrated but drank the tea anyways and I finally fell asleep for a few hours but woke up about 4 times in between. Did have quite some dreams but I’m not sure it was because of the herb tea, to me it didn’t feel like an increase.
I’ll try it later again, when I’ve quit my medication and I’ll be able to sleep alright.
I’ll probably, quite soon, make an order for this stuff myself. We will then be able to compare as I personally don’t think this will work for me. In regards to honey, well, it usually takes quite a bit of it. Whenever I would make normal tea with honey, I would have to put in a lot of it to feel the sweetness.
Hi,
I grow 3 of these plants in my back yard.
You will need about ‘a handfull’ of the fresh leaf no need to dry it just wash it and make the tea. You will never get rid of the vile taste there is no point trying, just let it cool and slam it down. I like to eat a banana after to get rid of the after taste.
As for smoking it I didn’t notice any thing extra apart from relaxing me. I wouldn’t smoke it if you don’t like to smoke. But you will need dry leaf to smoke. just leave it in the sun for a week or so.
You won’t always get enhanced dreams from the plant. You will need a couple of days wort of doses just in case.
The best results is make the tea, then go to sleep to you WBTB then drink the tea and go back to sleep. Happy times.
@ matteo, let me know when you’re going to try it so we can use same ammounts and times of usage to compare it the best way. And it’s fun too
@motagota, if you’re going to dry it, I don’t think you should dry it in the sun, find a dark place and dry it there since the sun has a negative effect on the herbs active components.
Hi i’ve been wondering lately about using calea zacatechichi. I had a few questions about it. First off, is it dangerous. Would it be harmful if I tried to smoke it once? Also, what is the best method to go along with this? Thanks for any responses!!
I’ve had some experience with it…it is not dangerous. Sure, you can smoke it if you like! I feel the best way to take it is in capsule form and after about 5 hours of sleep.
Its always been successful for me doing it that way.
I believe tea or capsule might be better, as smoke in the lungs isn’t really healthy, even if it isn’t a harmful substance. Plus, it might get you into unnecessary trouble with parents
(although I must say I’ve never used it in any form . Just my two cents)
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