Can't become lucid, after realyzing im dreaming

Hello :smile:
I had 2 dreams this month, and in both of them i realized that i am dreaming.

  1. In my dream i was proving a friend that i was lucid dreaming, buy trying to tell him to kill me. After him failing to kill me, he just disappeard. I remember doing tons of reality checks in that dream, and even trying to talk to my subconsciousness.
    In a wied way, i guess i was dreaming that i was lucid dreaming???

  2. I started reading a book “Lucid Dreaming Gateway to the Inner Self”. There o read that i have to carefully observe my hands before going to sleep. In the dream i found some cellphone. I remember going home to connect the phone to the pc, and thinking about how this could all be a dream, and in that case the phone is really not in my pocket. I checked my pocket, and the phone was there. When i got home, the phone was not in my pocket. Then i realized that i was dreaming, but nothing realy happend. I didn’t become lucid at all.

Am i doing something wrong here… In the book it says that he becomes lucid after hi sees his hands. Becouse i read that book, (a part(i got to page 42)) does that mean that i can only become lucid, after seeing my hands, or som other way that i will probably latter find in that book.

You were already lucid dreaming, Remember the definition of a LD is realizing you are dreaming while you are still dreaming. Being lucid does not mean you get to have full control of a dream, there are many levels of lucidity. These two dreams sound like level 1 maybe 2. Anyway if you want to to get to the top level, level 4, you really need to convince yourself you are dreaming. For example sometimes I don’t get that high on the lucidity level, and well after I do about 5 reality checks just to make sure I climb to the highest point on the dreamscape and jump off and try to fly. This just proves to yourself that you are dreaming :smile: Just make sure you double check that your dreaming before you go and do that. Well what I am trying to tell you is that to get lucid does not always mean full control, this is only the forth layer, and also to get yourself into the higher levels of lucidity is just really to prove awareness that you are dreaming. As I like to do this when answering questions on lucid dreaming here is an example from my dream journal. :cool:

I was in a vast city landscape but not like any city around now like London, Washington or Tokyo, it was ultra futuristic hover cars and all that future stuff. I thought to myself hey Im dreaming I can do what ever I want and then I done a couple of reality checks and thought to myself better not get excited and I better start climbing the levels. (by the way I forgot to tell you that once you start having lots of level 3-4 lucid dreams you start to have them from as soon as you realize i am dreaming this is the ultimate goal.) Ok so I went to a tall building and said I can jump that I thought this is only a dream if I don’t is doesn’t matter. Then I jumped and when up right to the top of the building and that was really high. Ok now it is time to fly and at this time I was about layer 2 and then I jumped and started to fly the landscape became ultra vivid and there you go level 3.

Hope this helps :wink:

Congrats on achieving lucidity, even if you weren’t aware of it :smile:

Rubbing your hands is the famous technique of keeping your lucidity once you gain it. It may not work for everyone, but it certainly does for me. What I do, is continually rub my hands while walking or doing something unimportant which requires no use of them.

There is also a way I get full lucidity immediately. I simply open my eyes. I don’t wake up, but end up in my room with enormous lucidity and control, being able to do whatever I desire.

Good luck!

How do you open your eyes while dreaming?
I didn’t really feel lucid in those dreams. I was just aware that i was dreaming. I couldn’t move, or do anything.

No special method, I just open them. I sometimes do that when in a lucid dream with a low level of control, like yours, so I do it kind of instinctively and that’s what happens. Full lucidity just like that!

Oh, you were lucid, but with very low level of control…or to be more accurate, with no control whatsoever. It’s not uncommon and it happens the most to beginners. With time and one of these two methods, that will change.

Do choose my method, please, because it should be tested. Everyone here seems to ignore it simply because they are afraid they would really wake up. Let me know the results :smile:

P.S. if you, by ‘‘how do you open your eyes’’ meant that you had no control so could not open your eyes, I suggest you repeat a mantra saying that as soon as you become lucid, you will do either of the two methods (or others, such as shouting ‘‘increase lucidity!’’, touching something from the dreamworld, etc.)