so heres my problem: after i use WBTB (usually at 5am, i sleep at 11 - 12 am), i stay up for 45 minutes, then go back to sleep using the timer bethod by lucidology 101. it doesnt work! i simply cant fall asleep, and the beeps keep shocking me. eventually, at 6:30 i gave up, but i couldnt go back to sleep until 7:00.
So the next day, i decide that staying up for 45 minutes must have woken me up, so instead of staying up, i quickly grab my ipod for the timer method. Again, i couldnt sleep. So instead of trying to force it to work, i tried WILDing to some binarual beats. again, no luck, so i took off my earphones, and tried to WILD by myself. AGAIN, i failed. eventually i just fell asleep.
It’s different for everyone. My suggestion is to change the amount of time you sleep, how long you stay awake (some people stay up for as short as 5-10 min), and go to sleep without listening to anything. Instead of WILD, try MILD, or even nothing at all. The last time I did WBTB, I didn’t use any method, and got an LD.
There’s a lot of variation from dreamer to dreamer. Myself, I just turn off my alarm and go straight into MILD or WILD by repeating “I’m dreaming” over and over. I’m not saying this will work for you, but there’s a lot of possibilities. Keep adjusting the time until you find one that makes it easier to fall asleep again. Also, it sounds like it’s the audio that keeps you up, so you might try it without the timer or binaural beats. If you don’t normally sleep with headphones on, that could easily break your concentration.
If you feel that you have woken up too much, try to relax in bed until you feel like you’re about to go to sleep again. If you start an active method like WILD too soon, you’ll only wake yourself up even more. Don’t get frustrated, it will take some time to find your comfort zone
i am not too good at it but i thought i would provide insight as to what works for me. when it works i usually get up after 7-8 hours and stay up for about 30 minutes. AFter the elapsed time i sleep on my right side and get into a comfortable position and then count up to 100 and back repeating “i am dreaming” between each number. As for the timer method, i dont think it really works. i tried it and just found it really annoying. i think you just have to experiment with different times awake and how much sleep you need and eventually you will find a fit.
Do you repeat this in your head or out loud? My problem is that my mind wonders so much and thinks about so many different things when i’m trying to fall asleep. I"ll try to tell myself i’m gonna go right into my dream, but then my mind will wonder off into what i’m gonna do the next day or something.
As for the WBTB method, i think it works great, for me anyways. the key for me is to drink lots of water so i have to get up then go back to bed. although last night it was the dream that woke me up and told me i had to go to the bathroom. actually i started going to the bathroom in the dream, woke up, went to the bathroom, came back and fell back asleep and continued the dream in the same spot i left off. the topic of the dream changed though. but it was still sweet.
I’ve also found it difficult to go back to sleep after a WBTB.
To such an extent that I have had to forget about a WBTB on nights when I have to work the next day.
I followed the Infinity program and got really close to an LD. In fact I had two false LD’s on consecutive nights but I struggle to keep up the training exercises especially when I have to work the next day.
thanks guys this really helped alot, i probs wont try WBTB for a while since i have my exams now, but i will do as soon as possible, does anybody have any tricks to help me fall asleep faster at night? (not WBTB, just sleep at night), thanks
Ignoring roll over signals and the urge to move will help you fall asleep. Just don’t get so caught up by not moving that you can’t sleep because you’re concentrating too hard on it
