Character Assisted Lucid Dreaming...CALD part VII

great, thanks! :grin:

We talked a bit last night again… but we don’t have much to talk about :sad: lol, and I was tired so I just went to sleep. Oh, now I remember. I sent her to explore my dream tower (which I have thought up but haven’t visited yet :lol:) then I went to sleep. I haven’t talked to her after that :tongue: I’m hoping she’ll also be able to help me get there…

Wow, I almost summoned Crystal into a dream last night, but I woke up as she was arriving. :happy:

@mattias: …Now you’ve just reminded me of my little tropical island mindscape\dreamscape. It’s been a while since last visited it with my characters, and I think tonight’s the perfect time to try and reacquaint myself with it.

@wolvendeer: That’s happened to me before too. :slight_smile: It was very confusing for the both of us upon awakening.

Sai, Aiden and Skaith are currently looking for new forms to appear as, since their old ones don’t quite suit them anymore. This will be Aiden’s third body change to date and he’s not quite sure yet what he want’s to be, although after we saw Avatar for the first time a couple weeks ago he’s been considering being a Na’vi. (Morph’s been strenuously objecting to that one) Skaith has no clue what he wants to be, but he say’s he’s keeping an eye out for something that catches his fancy. Saichania’s still keeping her options open, but she seems to have settled for heavily modifying her old form, going from being a humanoid bird to being a human with angel wings. And she’s changed her plumage from black, scarlet and gold to pure white. She’s still experimenting with ethnicity and physical appearance though.

Morph, Vesper and Crysar are happy looking as they always have, so no changes there.

Had some awesome hypnagogic imagery last night.

First, I was daydreaming about some random things, when I suddenly realised that I could see the scene I was “daydreaming” about. It was about 11:30PM at night, so I was pretty tired and wanted to rest, despite the amount of thoughts rushing through my head. When I found myself cooling down, I began listening to some calm music and began to daydream. I repeated the same scene over and over in the hope that I could VILD, but I gave up after 10 minutes because I felt I was getting nowhere.

Then, one of the songs that came on my MP3 was the song that reminded me of my characters (as stated in one of my earlier posts about the songs that remind me of my characters). All of a sudden, I started to get images of locations in my imaginary world of Eternos. Some of which I didn’t know existed in the world, but it turns out my world seemed far too short in my mind (sometimes I find it hard to visualise large areas). This time, I saw a rather large cliff with a river, and a marsh. There was a bridge over the river.
I also got some images of the town me and my characters stay in, and a image of a gigantic mountain/cliff surrounded by trees. In the middle of the trees was a straight, rocky path. I went to see my characters, and saw them in slightly more detail than I usually do. It was cool, but I fell asleep too quickly.

So, after some experience I have an idea on what to do next. Here’s my step-by-step list if you’re interested.

  1. I’ll reduce the file size of my hypnosis track so it can fit on my MP3 without taking up masses of space.
  2. An hour or two before bed, I’ll write down some of my adventures with my characters to get them in mind, and have a bath. Apparently, baths also increase the body temperature, and once you get out the bath the body cools down; and if timed correctly you will cool down as you get into bed, which means you can sleep/relax easily.
  3. An hour before bed, I do a few exercises, and then I do some cooling-off techniques (to get me tired)
  4. 10 minutes before bed (after cooling myself down after exercise) I’ll have a nice warm drink to get me relaxed.
  5. I’ll get into bed and read for 30 mins. If I’m tired and can hardly read much more, I’ll try to push myself for an extra 5 mins to ensure I’m really tired.
  6. I’ll turn of the light, check if everything’s fine and then go to bed (I’ll try to move as less as possible).
  7. I’ll play some music, and then listen to the hypnosis track (the one which helps me talk to my characters). I will follow all the steps, but try not to fall asleep.
  8. During the track it tells me to try to make my hypnagogic imagery more vivid so I can speak to my characters. If I’m tired this should be easy.
  9. I’ll improvise from there, and possibly even VILD.

Here’s something interesting things I researched/found out while experimenting:

  • You get more vivid HI if your light isn’t turned on. I don’t know why, it’s just this way.

  • Sometimes, when I try to VILD at night; in the middle of the VILD I suddenly remember Sleep Paralysis, and keep thinking I’m going in SP. I know this won’t happen to for two reasons:

  1. SP is extremely difficult to achieve at night because REM Sleep doesn’t occur for a few hours in the night.
  2. I fall asleep while thinking about thoughts anyway, so thinking about a specific VILD scenario won’t make a difference.
  • As you progress throughout VILD/CALD, the scenes tend to get more vivid.

  • For some people, visualising a large area can be tough, because they can’t process that much information at the same time. It’s the same for creating a landscape out of nowhere - it’s hard to keep track of where everything is.

^^
These are the steps I’m going to abide by tonight, and I’ll make sure it happens. I will report back tomorrow with results.
Wow, that turned out to be a long post :happy:

Wow, sounds like you’ve got a good plan. Crystal and I both love you for taking the initiative on the MP3. Can’t wait to see what progress you make.

For the visualizations thing, I run into that problem as well. That’s actually one of the reasons I stuck with the dead forest as my mindscape over any of the other ones that I made. It’s large, but it’s simple.

@Mecha: It’s interesting that your characters are deciding to change their forms. It isn’t surprising that Crysar is keeping himself the way he is, though. Keep us updated on how they turn out, all right?

Unfortunately I received no success last night - I fell asleep to early.

I managed to have a brief conversation with my characters this morning though. They want me to explore this habited planet we’re on some more. So far, we found out that it’s inhabited by humans, but it’s very advanced in technology and there’s barely any pollution there. We haven’t ran into any monsters either, but that doesn’t mean to say there aren’t! It depends on where my imagination takes me! Currently, I’m in a huge, grassy knoll that has barely any treees, but I can see an ocean to the East.

Teraflare’s gone missing, and so has Shadow! Apparently they went to take a break and they would be back soon, but they haven’t returned. I’m sure they’ll turn up though. Me, Blaze, Melody (one of my three female characters) and others have just been chilling, sharing stories with each other. I might even make a new character sometime. I’ll design the personality for them, and pretend that we met the ‘character’ in one of the cities.

But anyway, I’m going to make sure this works tonight!
Wish me luck :happy:

EDIT: 15/6/10 - Had no success last night. Managed to reduce the MP3 to a slightly (very slightly) smaller size so it doesn’t take up as much space. I have to be in a good mood before I go to bed, otherwise I have no motivation to try it out. I’ll make sure I’m in a good mood by doing something interesting.

Hope Teraflare and Shadow return soon! Good luck on the MP3 project, can’t wait to see how it turns out.

@ Mecha - Thanks.

Just adding some minor tweaks to the file. The gaps between the voices are too long in areas, and I will try to keep the voice quiet so it doesn’t become annoying.
But I am noticing an increase of vividness in my daydreams…I’ll keep experimenting and testing, and should have some solid results over the next few days. I’ll keep you guys updated.

Thanks for the update. Also, feel free to use Megaupload to drop us a Beta release when you feel it is at a workable stage. More ears may help you out.

I keep asking my character to help me get lucid, but he’s never really successful

Character____Me

:dingy: _____ :sleep:

:help:

:content: I can’t tell you how many times that’s happened to us. I think the best thing to do in that situation is to just keep trying- eventually they’ll be able to get through to your subconscious while you’re still sleeping.

In a dream I had a few nights ago, I thought I was in the hypnagogic stage. I could hear all my characters talk extremely vividly in my head. I never thought to do an RC at the time. It was awesome, and now I now remember to do a reality check. :grin:

The hypnosis file will be uploaded in a few days when I get the chance, but don’t expect it instantly because I’ve got studying for an exam. I’ve had no success yet because I haven’t actually tried it over the last few days. I need to remind myself XD.
I want to try to reduce the file so it’s under 100MB.

Wow. How long is it?

I’ve been away for sometime.

The file itself is about 20-25 minutes long, an appropriate length if you ask me. If I make the distance between the voices shorter, and make the length at the end slightly shorter, then it’ll be about 15 minutes (still enough time) long, and it’ll be a smaller size. I should be finished over the next few days because I have a lot of free-time. I’ll then be ready to upload.

Hello i’m back! [:c ) i just about got hope independent, and i found my spirit guide, sid, so i have two characters now.

That’s awesome, LD1996. :smile: So, tell us about your spirit guide. I remember when I met mine all those years ago. She helped me out so much over the years. I should visit her more.

Agh, still haven’t got round to finishing the file :\

But I did have an awesome dream last night. I went to the future, but didn’t go to my futuristic city of mine. Maybe if I try to visualise one in my head before sleep, then I’ll be able to get there easily. I find it hard to visualise one of these cities, that’s the problem. I’m taking a break from my characters for a while, and I might just daydream about real life, but with crazy and different scenarios. I should get back to my characters in a few days though.

@Teraflare- Futuristic city dreamscapes are always cool. For visualizing, I always like to let my subconscious come up with most of the detail and just let my conscious mind sort of ‘steer’ the process. (except for certain specific areas in the landscape that I ‘manually’ create) Looking forward to the completion of the file.

As for my character’s progress in choosing their new forms, Skaith has opted to stay just as he already is, but has a new goal to use his shapeshifting ability far more often. Saichania’s narrowed down her desired ethnicity to Mongolian, inspired by the origin of her name, but has yet to choose a face. Aiden not only is still undecided as to his new form, but has added several new choices for himself to consider. At the moment he’s currently thinking of becoming either a Na’vi, a Pikachu, or a Komato Assassin.

Sai and Aiden are both clear on the fact that their new forms are for the mindscape only, and don’t represent a shift in how their ‘canon’ story forms are going to look. Those are already pinned down and aren’t going to change anytime soon. (far less confusing that way) Sai’s main reason for wanting a change is the difficulty she has expressing emotion with her beak in the mindscape, and Aiden’s just wanting to try something new, to become less ‘invisible’ in the mindscape. (he’s sad because nobody’s been noticing him much lately)

WHEW! I finished reading CALD topics 1-5, before I gave up. Thats a relief. Oh, and hello, nice to meet you all.

Tsi’leik: Yes, nice to meet you!

Mecha: Congratulations Ninja for reading the majority of this monster.

Morph: to Tsi’leik Your name reminds me of the Twi’leks from Star Wars…

Sai: smiles Welcome you two! I’m afraid you’ve come at a bit of a slow period right now, but I’m hoping there will be more activity around here before long.