Chinese fur farms: why people shouldn't buy fur anymore..

[mystic]

Yesterday I got to see a horrible movie about Chinese fur farms. Some undercover investigators could enter those farms and filmed some of the most disgusting pictures you can imagine… They sure tell us why wearing fur is almost a crime on its own… Also know that apparently,

China supplies more than half of the finished fur garments imported for sale in the US. Even if a fur garment’s label says it was made in a European country, the animals were likely raised and slaughtered elsewhere—possibly on an unregulated Chinese fur farm.

So it’s really not some local event which is impossible to prevent simply because we’re living too far away from that hell. If people don’t buy fur anymore, those farms will also disappear in time. It’s as simple as that.

After some consideration, I decided to post the movie clip here. I think it’s important for people to see the cruelty on their own. However, given the sometimes extremely shocking nature of the images, I’ll post some excerpts from a description of the movie, so you know what to expect:

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When undercover investigators made their way onto Chinese fur farms recently, they found that many animals are still alive and struggling desperately when workers flip them onto their backs or hang them up by their legs or tails to skin them. When workers on these farms begin to cut the skin and fur from an animal’s leg, the free limbs kick and writhe. Workers stomp on the necks and heads of animals who struggle too hard to allow a clean cut. When the fur is finally peeled off over the animals’ heads, their naked, bloody bodies are thrown onto a pile of those who have gone before them. Some are still alive, breathing in ragged gasps and blinking slowly. Some of the animals’ hearts are still beating five to 10 minutes after they are skinned. One investigator recorded a skinned raccoon dog on the heap of carcasses who had enough strength to lift his bloodied head and stare into the camera.

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Undercover investigators from Swiss Animals Protection/EAST International recently toured fur farms in China’s Hebei Province, and it quickly became clear why outsiders are banned from visiting. There are no regulations governing fur farms in China—farmers can house and slaughter animals however they see fit—meaning miserable lives and excruciating deaths. The investigators found horrors beyond their worst imaginings and concluded, “Conditions on Chinese fur farms make a mockery of the most elementary animal welfare standards. · In their lives and their unspeakable deaths, these animals have been denied even the simplest acts of kindness.”

[size=75]Quotes were taken from furisdead.com/feat/ChineseFurFarms/[/size]

This movie clip gave me a nightmare afterwards, so together with this description, I hope you’re warned enough…

Here is the movie.

[Presence_of_Light]

wow.

that makes me sick to my stomach just reading about it.

what the hell do they skin DOGS for ? Jesus Christ…

I hate this world.

March 16, 2005
Dog Shooting in Iraq for “Fun”

NOTE: Ogrish.com opposes behavior such as that below. We have provided the US military and animal organisation PETA details regarding the sender of this submission.

“Hi my name is M. D. formaly of A TRP 1-10 CAV 4ID and while in Iraq we had a sport of killing dogs whenever the Iraqis werent shooting us. So when I shot this one at about 50 yards with my M4 and it ran yelping to lower ground, we had to finish it so my friends and I went to it and started shooting it. I ve never seen a dog take as many shots to the head at least 4 as this one did and then after we thought it was dead we dug a hole and when I picked it up with the shovel it came back to life, so we shot it a couple more times…its pretty funny.”

www. ogrish.com/archives/dog_shooting_in_iraq_for_fun_Mar_16_2005.html

it just takes you to text, and a link is available for the video, i’m not going to watch it

[downward_spiral]

This is information not worth knowing. It would be worth knowing if there was a possibility of you having to participate in these actions, but the thruth is that you probably won’t. These images don’t make me sick at all. Mainly because I know that these animals would have never been in excistence in the first place if it wasn’t for the fur industry.

Why should I care how they kill animals. These are animals I am never going to have anything to do with. And if you would have not seen this obvious movie with an agenda to recruite your time and money to their cause, you would have never been concerned about it either.

I’m just saying, don’t go do some silly thing like protest about this.

[Sleepyhead]

I couldn’t disagree more. Your argument that “the animals would not have been in existance if it wasn’t for the fur industry” seems so flawed. What sort of an existance do these animals have? One that they would never choose to have.They deserve at the very least some level of care. My argument is not that people should not wear fur, that is up to them. Enough money is paid for items made from fur that could be put towards the animals treatment and I think people should be aware where their animal products come from.

If people don’t do “silly things” like protesting, the situation would go on and on and millions more animals will go through needless suffering.

Well that’s my opinion.

[sitboy]

i have always been aginsts fur. All fur farms are like that. nOt just the ones in China.

[Presence_of_Light]

@downward~spiral

This is information not worth knowing. It would be worth knowing if there was a possibility of you having to participate in these actions, but the thruth is that you probably won’t. These images don’t make me sick at all. Mainly because I know that these animals would have never been in excistence in the first place if it wasn’t for the fur industry.

Why should I care how they kill animals. These are animals I am never going to have anything to do with. And if you would have not seen this obvious movie with an agenda to recruite your time and money to their cause, you would have never been concerned about it either.

I’m just saying, don’t go do some silly thing like protest about this.

So can your parents torture you and skin you alive? What the hell are you talking about?

First of all, there is no real reason for fur, unlike killing animals for food, it seems like they completely waste the rest of the animals and just use their fur (i may be wrong).

Second of all its the manner in which they are killed. Nothing deserves to have that happen to it, and your arguments make very little sense other than yes, we can’t do anything about it, so we shouldn’t get too worked up.

[ivi]

You don’t even have to go to China or Iraq. You have seen Meet Your Meat, right?

[downward_spiral]

My parents can’t skin me alive because it is illegal. Plus, there really isn’t a market for Adam Romeo skins now is there?

Obviously there is a reason to produce fur. Because there is a market for it. I’m sure there is nothing more that these humble people in China want more than to be left alone by you type of people.

They are the ones doing the killing. They are the only ones that should witness the act, so why does it matter? The only reason you are concerned about it now, is because you saw it.

[Abyss]

Why should I care how they kill animals. These are animals I am never going to have anything to do with.

Just because it isn’t you, makes it ok for the suffering to happen?

I challenge you to watch an animal die for 5 hours, then evaluate how it makes you feel.

You may find that the animal’s pain is your own

Oh, but wait…

The only reason you are concerned about it now, is because you saw it.

Not even sure what you’re trying to say here.

If someone, who believes animals shouldn’t suffer, becomes aware of poor treatment of animals, of course they’re going to be concerned about it! What’s the alternative? They psychically become aware of it?

It seems like you were trying to attack “reacting to something” rather than “consciously choosing to believe in something”, but if you were, I’m sorry, you were way off the mark.

[downward_spiral]

@Abyss

The only reason you are concerned about it now, is because you saw it.

Not even sure what you’re trying to say here.

By that, I was saying that the only reason you are a ‘someone who believes animals should not suffer’, is because these videos were released.

I could watch animals die for five hours. Only thing that might bother me is the smell, but I could get used to that over time. Because, in fact, I do not work on a fur farm.

[Snape]

@downward~spiral

I could watch animals die for five hours. Only thing that might bother me is the smell, but I could get used to that over time.

Goodness me, Freud would have a field day with you! (in fact, he’s probably not the only psychologist who would!)

[downward_spiral]

Heh. I wouldn’t do it for my enjoyment. I would do it just to prove a point. Its these people that need the psychiatrists. I think they want the people to jack the animals off before they kill them or something. Or maybe a blind-fold? What does the suffering have to do with the people who buy it anyways? You don’t think they have ever realized that the animals on their necks are dead? If they put a dead animal around their neck, I don’t think they are going to care if the animal was alive for a few minutes after the person tried to kill it.