Hello guys…
What’s the REASON one gets better results after waking up, then sleeping again? I haven’t quite understood it yet, and what does it matter how long you are up? It’s allmost impossible to fall asleep again after getting out of the bed…
Thanks in advance 
Hi, Lucretia88 
The sleep isn’t the same through the night. In the beginning of the night, we get more deep sleep, and only little REM sleep. Most dreams occur in REM sleep. The REM periods comes with about 90 minutes intervals, and they get longer the longer you sleep. So, if you go back to sleep after sleeping for a few hours, you will get more REM straight away, and more dreams!
That’s right. The first time you get to sleep at night, you’ll go through several deeper sleep stages at which you’ll probably have no dreams, and then enter a short REM stage, maybe something like 10 minutes. Then you’ll probably wake up for a while, though you’re unlikely to remember that later, and then you’ll go through the above mentioned cycle again, but this time the deeper stages are shorter and the REM stage at the end a bit longer. This continues until in the morning hours, your REM stages can fill the whole sleep cycles (which last about 90 minutes each, as Siiw mentioned), and that’s when you can enter REM sleep right from being awake.
The same is true about afternoon naps. There you will normally have mostly REM dreams.
As for the staying awake longer bit. That helps you because you gain more conciousness (spelling?) during longer periods, and when you go back to bed, you have a better chance of staying somewhat concious, depending what method your using, if any. But for some people, like me, I can go to bed as soon as I wake up, and be fine. The more you stay up, I find the harder it is for me to fall back asleep. Talk about self-induced insomnia.
For me, it’s almost impossible to stay awake long enough to properly do any inducing techniques, if I don’t get up for a while. So it depends on how sleepy you are; do what’s best for you.
For WILD, WBTB helps you enter REM faster - thus making WILD a lot easier. It takes a lot of practice to be able to do WILD when you first go to sleep.
With WILD, it’s best to only stay up a very short time (I’m talking seconds here).
For MILD, WBTB helps you to ‘refresh’ your conciousness and your intention to become lucid.
With MILD, most people find it best to stay up longer (around half an hour).
Ah, thanks for clearing that up…!
But…
I’m gonna just try WBTB+MILD’s, don’t think I wanna try WILDS yet, cause it takes a loong time for me to fall asleep. But when doing MILD after WBTB, how long do I have to MILD, I really can’t do it till I fall a sleep, my sleeping sucks, I have to like, think so much that I think I’m thinking but actually I’m not thinking anymore. So it takes me like a long time to actually be sleeping.
The questions: How long do I have to MILD and how long do I have to stay awake (The shorter out of bed, the better!) aand, I don’t have any books about lucid dreaming, so what should I read… Just surf around the forum?
Try MILD as long as you can stay concious… or if u prefer… +/- 20 minutes with eyes shut… and then drift off to sleep.
Well, not only this forum has info about lucid dreaming, u can surf the web; just search lucid dreaming on google… (don’t click the first site 
).
In order to practice MILD and to increase in a dramatic way your LD chances, you have to stay awake between 15 mn and 45 mn. The longer out of bed, the better!
You can find information about LD’ing on the LD4all main page (in the “first” and “how” buttons), in the Lucid Dreaming wikibook, interesting articles (about MILD for instance) on the Lucidity Institute web site and of course you’ll find info all around the forum, in the Library section, etc.
Personally I prefer to stay up very short with WBTB (5 minutes) since I’ll fall asleep a lot faster then. Also the MILD itself should last as long as you feel it is appropriate, so let’s say till you feel that you got the message. I’d say dont do it for much longer then 15 minutes. But in the end, everyone has to find their own personal WBTB + MILD formula.