hello! i have been keeping a dream journal for a year now and still cant seem to find a consistent dream sign. is there any way that i am able to force myself into creating a dreamsign that appears consistently in a dream. for example, if i told myself to RC whenever i see a bird and repeat this daily, could a bird eventually become a consistent dream sign and appear in my dreams? how else could i go about creating a reliable dreamsign?
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Lol I love the smilie! Anyway, you could do the RC thing, but that wouldn’t really be a dreamsign, but it definitely could help! What it would do for you is create a lifestyle for you called LL. Hope this helped!
I’ve had that problem too. Try using an external source… for example, i used nature mp3s while i slept so that i’d dream of those specific sounds ( t-storms, birds, waves, etc).
I tried writing the letters LD on the side of my right hand and did a RC everytime i saw it, and a few days later i checked it in a dream but it wasn’t there so i didn’t realise it was a dream…
So I’m not sure how effective this method is.
It may not appear as a dreamsign in the firstplace… Try thinking out of the box… For example one of my dreamsigns are locations so I’ve started questioning the reality wherever I am… “How did I get there?” seems to work, since I started questioning location in my dream today 
I don’t think that this would work, it would just be another RC. In order for something to be a dreamsign, it has to appear in your dreams quite often already.
thanks for the replies! galactic kiwi, i like the idea of asking myself how i got here because i do find that many of my dreams are in some pretty random places. do you ask yourself this at specific times during the day or randomly? thanks again!
That’s exactly how RC s are supposed to work. You do them to exhaustion and by force of habit they’ll migrate into your dreams. You could do the bird thing, for example. Or something else too, the more the merrier.
You could also do something that doesn’t involve any external source, as trying to get a finger through your hand, or stop breathing. But as Minato said it’s not fail-proof, you’ll just have to practice until it becomes natural.
I try to tie it with my attempts to LL - I raise my awarness, get sense of my surroundings, what I hear, see, feel etc. and I question the location 
Hope it helps you.
a good idea is to do a RC every time you go through a door. you probably do that a lot in a dream, same as in life. although it’s pretty hard to get used to it, but you can try. you can also do that when you sit down (i’m sure you sit down a lot in a dream too).
also a very good thing is asking yourself how you got here. do it as often as you can. and generally look out for weird things. for example, tonight in a dream i started hovering. and i decided to do a RC, cause that looked weird to me 
and it worked…
Well RC’s never really transferred to my dreams so I gave up on them. I always got lucid “somehow”… I just thought “Hey, this is a dream!” and that “somehow” was my awareness.
I got lucid thanks to RC just once and that was because of some odd text behavior, but this could be simply part of the awareness… That’s why I’m focusing more on strengthening my awareness… because for me more awareness = more LD’s 
(don’t mind my LD counter, I used to have dozens of LD’s about two years ago, but I was on different forum back then and eventually I stopped getting lucid, maybe thanks to lack of exercise- that’s why I’m starting with new counter - just a bit of comment so you don’t get confused )
Although I can’t remember any specific dream where I sat or went through a door, that’s really good advice! I don’t even think you need to do those things in a dream for them to work as a RC. I gues it is the other way around: if you create the habit IRL then you’re bound to dream sooner or later about it - just as you dream with other recurring stuff like driving or friends/relatives you see a lot. As opposed to the rationale that “I sit a lot on real life, then I probably sit a lot in dreams too, so let’s work on this”. But hey, anyway it works for you
I’ll mix things up and try to be aware of my surrounding every time I go through a door! This looks like a golden technique, thanks a lot!
yesterday i made up a new technique with RCs. it might be a good idea too. i count them during the day. in a way, it’s a RC and awareness check in one. since when i need to remember the number of the RC, i also need to look back and remember my last one, which kind of traces the event back that lead up to this point. that way i don’t lose track of my day. and i’ve noticed that if i don’t count them, i forget to do them even 
This is so simple yet makes a lot of sense! I’ll see if I can remember to give it a try 
I rarely RC IWL 
thats an interesting idea regarding counting your reality checks. i think i might try that. i also agree that increasing your awareness would result in more LD’s but i am still kinda confused with this whole lucid living thing. is raising your awareness and becoming more in tune with your senses such as hearing and vision etc. basically all there is to it?
other say that LL is also questioning if things are natural, life-like, not dream like. but when you’re not used to it, it’s just so hard. today i was trying to keep that, but i was so tired, so trying to pay attention and ask myself if these boring things are not boring and unusual… was much too hard… LL is very hard if you’re new at it. i don’t know if i’ll succeed at it. my brain needs to rest, it can’t pay attention all the freakin’ time…
Basically it involves being more aware of your surroundings. What I do now is look around and make sure that everything makes sense, is where it is supposed to be and how I got where I am. This has worked because this morning, for example, I was driving my car out of my old driveway and it was running even though the key was in the off position. I thought about it like I would IRL and realized I had no idea why I was at my old house and that none of it made any sense = lucid.
Rhewin, usually when i realize like that, my dream collapses 
even though i don’t panic and i’m not even very surprised, it’s more like “ok, so now’s the time i was preparing for”, try to remember all my plans and intentions… and i’m paralyzed, can’t move, dream goes out -.-
however i have this problem like i said… i know everything in my home, even the way i usually go to places… and checking them for “logic” gets so damn boring. everything looks like the same old boring stuff… how can you check and check it again, every day? the 3rd time i’m checking i don’t have to check, cause i expect and know where everything is going to be… how do you get over that
How do you know the other times you checked aren’t false memories? I will admit, it is much easier on days when I’m going different places rather than at home. But still, even now I’m asking myself if me being on the computer with LD4all open makes sense (which it does). Buuuut, better safe than sorry. RC
I never said it wouldn’t be boring. but it’s worth it. By doing that over and over you are clearly establishing what is normal. That way, when you find yourself at the wrong house or you have a new bookshelf in your bedroom, you may notice.
As for the dream collapsing, there’s two things. One, it gets easier the more LD’s you have. Two, before trying to remember your goals stabilize the dream with hand rubbing, exercise or anything else to keep the focus on your dream body.
yeah well surely the first thing i must beat is not being able to stay consistent on a technique. i just can’t keep doing it, i give up in like 3 days cause it starts making me go insane. or really bored.
as for the stabilizing, i tried, lucidity increase, “i can move, you can do it, get up”… got up IRL dang… and there were no hands to rub by the way… everything was black next time i tried to grab an object… still faded out sucks.