Creepy... my dream guide turned on me and kicked me out

Lucid Adventures
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Last night after a series of LD sequences, all of which involved me happily hanging out with my dream guide, she suddenly transformed her appearance, grabbed my wrists and asked me “Do you know how long you’ve been dreaming?” I felt an uncontrollable feeling of fear because not only did her new face look evil, but her question sounded like a threat. She also had me pinned down and was gripping my wrists really hard. Then she kicked me out of my own dream, luckily only into a FA but I could never quite regain lucidity after that.

But damn, I was pretty freaked out. Maybe she isn’t my dream guide after all… I never knew exactly what a dream guide was, I just figured it was someone who you bumped into a lot in your dreams. I also have sexual relations with her in my dreams as well as IWL with the girl she’s based on. Which made it extra creepy when she turned evil. Phew, just had to get that off my chest.

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Welcome bhsieh to LD4all! :wave:

I wouldn’t take that as a threat, I’ll try to explain what I think it happened.
Remember that most details in dreams get influenced by how your emotions are, so the fact the whole thing went downhill can start from the simple thing you were shaken by how he asked the question.

The question itself doesn’t sound so much of a threat - plus it’s not like he can kick you out, it is your dream afterall; it was your own fear that provoked the FA, it can’t be anyone else than yourself.

That question sounded more like of an invite for you to acknowledge that - dreams are a powerful instrument, and there’s lots more ways to use them than just hanging around :content: the rude manners were probably uncalled for, but try and remember if he’s asked that same question before, maybe he did in a gentler tone.

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I would beg to differ on that one (that a DG can’t kick you out because they aren’t the ones controlling anything).

Remember, even when you’re lucid, your subconscious still has more power over the dream scape than your conscious self does. Or perhaps I should say that your subconscious simply plays a hugely important part even when you’re lucid.

In his book Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self, Robert Waggoner provides some very interesting experiences about dream figures and the role the subconscious plays while dreaming. You don’t control your dreams when you’re lucid. You control your own actions and direct your focus in a dream. Thus, unexpected things can (and will) happen even if you’re at your most lucid.

For instance, let’s say you simply ask to be transported to a different place. Or heck, even a specific one, such as… I don’t know… a savannah in Africa or something. When you get there, the world will look a certain way, but I doubt that you painstakingly created every single tree, every single animal, every single leaf, every single grain of sand consciously. You provided the focus and the intent, and your subconscious maps out the rest.

Now, I do not know about your relationship with this girl that the dream figure is based on. I don’t think that person was a guide, because a dream guide is basically someone who helps you out in the dream scape. Helps you discover things, become more aware, that sort of thing. Like a mentor. Not just someone you hang around with a lot (though you can certainly hang out with a dream guide a lot).

A dream figure, ultimately, is some expression of a part of yourself. A part of your subconscious, which definitely does have the power to kick you out of a dream. It happened to me a little over a week ago when I denied a dream figure something they helped me with.

As to what this means, I can’t really tell you. You’re the only one who can properly interpret your dreams. Just realize that it may not have been as serious as you may think, as tosxyChor explained.