I was so close last night… SO CLOSE to having my second lucid dream. I was in some sort of schoolyard, and we played a game that was very much like baseball, but not called baseball. The balls (yes, balls) were bright blue and actually reminded me of alien eggs. The strange part was that my team was batting, and each person waiting in line to bat each had their own bat and (strange part) their own ball. This was something that for the first time ever got me to do a reality check in a dream. (I never remember to.) I looked at my hands, and they didn’t have any more or less fingers, any major irregularities in them. I tried to force my right hand through my left, but it didn’t work. I looked at my palms again, and something just wasn’t right with them. everything became very vivid, and i got very excited. I began rubbing my hands together to stabilize the dream.
What happens next makes me question my own common sense. a few seconds after what happened above, I approached another boy waiting to bat, and he told me as soon as we made eye contact: “There’s no way you’re dreaming.” AND I BELIEVED HIM! I lost lucidity immediately and i don’t remember the ND after that. I just don’t understand why I didn’t realize that I hadn’t told anyone that I knew it was a dream and that the only way the boy would know my thoughts would be if it was a dream. It’s so frustrating, because this is the closest I’ve gotten ever.
Easy way around this one…simply make having someone telling you you’re not dreaming one of your dream signs. I mean, let’s be honest…how many times IRL does someone come up to you and tell you you’re not dreaming? Right…so bottom line is, if someone tells you you’re not dreaming for no good reason, chances are you’re dreaming
Good idea… So now I can use stuff like that to remind me to do reality checks and not to let them deter me. I only really had one DS before, and it stopped showing up as soon as I identified it. (Stained Glass)
Also, for some reason, i was scared to say anything in the dream. I wanted to shout “Lucidity Times 100!!!”, but I felt too timid. I knew that it wasn’t real, but i still thought it would be kind of weird to shout that in a group of people.
Not that you want to tell them to f*ck off, necessarily…but…well…here’s a for- instance…an LD I had several years ago where I pulled away from this phenomenon as an obstacle…
In short, had this dream where I was with two women who I looked up to as mentors at that time. We were driving up a winding mountain pass. We came to this scenic overlook and pulled into the little parking lot to stretch our legs. I remember mentioning to T., as we stepped out of the car, that the whole scene had something of a dream-like quality to it (wasn’t lucid at that moment) and that beautiful places like this could be used to hone our awareness. She turned to me and said, “Well, the truth is you aren’t really aware right now”. I turned back to her and said “That’s true…but I’m more aware than I was 5 years ago.” In that instant, I became completely lucid…and the whole dream turned black while this constellation of bright golden stars floated down and settled into my chest with an incredible sense of energetic euphoria. In that moment, I knew I had accomplish something very important: the separation of myself from a desperate need for validation from others…even those considered wiser than me.
Here’s the thing of it. On one level, she was absolutely right…I wasn’t aware in that moment. But on another level, my response put me on firmer ground, standing on my own two feet, so to speak. And in doing so I became more aware…more lucid in a way that wasn’t dependent on her support…and that was a breakthrough. After that I came to trust, more and more, an inner voice rather than relying constantly on outside perspective, which had been an issue in the past. It’s not that I don’t gain from others’ perspective…but rather I’m not pathologically dependent on it.
From this perspective, one might say yes…your DC’s are right in a way…the instability and uncertainty of the lucidity in your dream was reflected in being convinced otherwise by a DC. It won’t always be this way The minute you become more certain of yourself…more lucid…then it won’t matter what DC’s say, because you’ll know. And then, ironically, you’ll may find that DC’s don’t question your lucidity in dreaming anymore…if that makes sense You may even find that a certain level of self confidence is transported into your daily life, as well. Nothing wrong with that!
But if in any way your level of lucidity is too low, a DC can perfectly flip you out of it.
Not in a violent maner of course, he may just say “It’s not a dream” and you will believe him… because some parts of your brain aren’t aware enought to question it.
What you all are saying surprised me a bit… I mean, when I see a DS in my dream I often ask a DC if I am really dreaming, and the DC always answers truthfully. Occurences like that had often helped me to obtain lucidity. But now I wonder how many times the DC “lied” to me and I had a normal dream, which I don’t remember now…
No experience with this, I can’t remember that a DC ever talked to me directly about being lucid or not. But the way DC’s are acting is highly affected by what you think they would act like. So if you believe your DC’s will answer truthfully because you received true answers so far, they will most likely answer honestly. The other way around, if you expect them to lie to you because maybe they did it before, they will.
Faraday, you broke me down a little Leijona, you can be right, as our dreams are affected to what we think, more or less conscious… But usually I remember the majority of my dreams when I wake up, so is it likely that the dream when the DC lies me is the particular one which I don’t remember?
The minute you become more certain of yourself…more lucid…then it won’t matter what DC’s say, because you’ll know. And then, ironically, you’ll may find that DC’s don’t question your lucidity in dreaming anymore…if that makes sense 
You may even find that a certain level of self confidence is transported into your daily life, as well. Nothing wrong with that!
