Hey everyone. I’ve been researching LD for about a month and a half, so I know a good amount of info about it. But I’m confused as to how exactly they differ from OBE and AP.
I know that in a LD you become aware you are dreaming and have the possibility to somewhat control a dream.
So does having an OBE or AP have anything to do with dreams? Or are OBE and AP events that happen IRL? What’s the point of wanting an OBE vs an LD? Same thing with AP?
What can you do when you have an OBE? What can you do when you AP? I’m just confused about how those differ from having a LD.
AP and OBE difference: They are the same thing; AP refers specifically to having an “astral body”, whereas OBE just refers to leaving the body, without giving the body any name. In AP, one projects their “astral body”, and in OBE, one leaves their body. In theory, they are the same, it is simply a question of naming the body leaving the physical body.
Does LD differ from OBE and AP: depends on your belief. 3 main beliefs;
If you believe that OBE/AP is simply illusion of leaving body, then it is the same thing as LD.
If you believe that OBE/AP is actually about leaving the body, and if you believe that dreams happen in the mind, then they are different.
If you believe that dreams happen on another plane of existence, and the OBE/AP is actually leaving the body, then they are the same thing.
Regardless of your belief, what one can experience in OBE/AP one can do in LD, and vice versa (from what I understand). The main difference is the induction technique.
WILD is different from OBE induction in that WILD involves hypnogogic hallucinations gradually forming into a dream, and OBE involves the sensations (whether real or not) of leaving the body.
Again, I am not an expert, and I am trying to remain neutral to all beliefs/interpretations. This is simply what I understand about OBE, AP and LD based on personal experience and research. I am sure someone would like to add/clarify/correct from what I have written if they have another opinion to what I have written. I hope this helps.
yeah, AP is leaving your physical body and still having form to yourself moving around, like you can walk and such. OBE’s you’re just kind of there, when you move you feel like your either flying or slithering, or gliding, like a snake.
And LD’s, what we’re all here for, are simply a place where YOU are the creator. You make the place you live in, and can change anything simply by power of will.
I wonder if anyone has done experiments with this? Like say you have an OBE or you AP and you say “Im going to visit my friend right now to see what they are doing.” You go there and see that your friend is reading a book in bed. Then when you come back to your body, you call your friend up the next day and ask them if they were reading a book in bed last night. Seems to me like someone has had to of tried this before?
I am not sure if OBEs as commonly described are real. I am convinced that the majority of those that describe an OBE are just lucid dreamers that had one or more dreams that started from where they slept. Also most possibly it could have been among the first times to LD for them and that’s where the confusion stems from. I have heard of an OBE that someone had when she was clinically dead or in a coma ( as far as I remember possibly the first ), she described what was going on in the operation she had in full detail, and this is not an exaggeration by someone, I don’t buy into metaphysical things so I know. I believe she was although in a numb state very much awake in a dream inside her head that replicated what was going around through combining sounds, dialogues, sightings etc etc what to say can’t find another explanation
