Dream about DR?!?!

yes thats right, I woke up in real life from my dream, fell back asleep went to another dream and eventually woke up in that one (although I was still sleeping) got out the notebook and pen and wrote down everything I could remember although I was still dreaming hahahaha I couldn’t pick up on anything weird and should have asked myself if i was dreaming but couldn’t - I need to focus on that… but how? yes I have been doing RC’s too - any ideas and helpful hints? thanks! Also, I have had two dreams in the past week which are really really weird and unexplainable but I haven’t been able to ask myself if this is a dream or look at my hands etc.

That was a false awakening.

If you’re looking at your hands, you’ve been reading Castaneda, haven’'t you? Not a complete waste of time by any means, but looking at your hands won’t help anything.

A lot of what he says about IBs is worth listening to.

ive had lots of FA’s where i wake up in my bed inside my dream, go back to sleep, and wake up in my physical bed, then go back to sleep (mostly on saturdays i wake up at 9 and go back to sleep), possibly into another dream.
i normally do the noseplug RC, as i find it works the best, considering you can still breath in a dream, but not so much IRL.
you should do this after waking up just to see if its an FA, and probably during your normal RC schedule, instead of just looking at your hands. (if your in school, you can use the clock RC, just start wearing a watch, or glance over at a clock on the wall.)

What do you mean? Looking at your hands is one of the most used RC’s! :bored: I personally use the nose RC, but I’ve used the hand one in the past with no problem and some people use it all the time.

Agree, hands are good RC! They bring me first LD!

I just have to get to the point where I can do RC’s in my dream…alot of weird stuff has been happening but I haven’t been able to do RC’s. I do it periodically throughout the day, too so I don’t know what im doing wrong or if it just takes time?

It just takes time. Lots and lots of weird stuff happen in my dreams (if they didn’t I’d be bored with my dreams!) It’s more like when I’m in a dream I go into “dream reasoning” and if I’m lucky sometimes I’ll get a bit of “WL reasoning” and when something’s not right I happen to think to do an RC. Or sometimes I’ll realize it’s a dream even without an RC but do the RC just for the heck of it or just to confirm.

Keep doing it and it’ll become a habit in time! They’ll show up, don’t worry!

It works as an RC, but that’s not why Castaneda recommended it. He said it was a way of “fixating the assemblage point.” You’d have to read his books to know what that means. It’s too long to explain here.

Sure, people recommend it here as an RC because it works for them and they use it. I’ve tried it before and have had my hands normal, but for others, it works. So I leave it alone. I’ve never heard of Castaneda, so I would have no idea what you’re talking about when you say something about fixating an assemblage point. I don’t really have the time or resources to read a lot of lucid dreaming books (or really any ones in physical form), so that’s why I come places like here.

We like information here at ld4all, so if it’s something we want to know about, we don’t mind long posts. If you don’t want to make a long reply, then you can make a new topic where no one cares that it’s a long reply and then link us to it in a shorter reply. People aren’t going to be happy if you claim something that we’ve never heard of or disagree with and then fail to back up your words with something logical or something at all. Don’t worry, we’ll read it.

I don’t aim to sound mean, but I’ve been told I can be very blunt. So if I come across as sounding angry or mean I’m not intending to. We do appreciate your opinions and are willing to listen to you but sometimes I don’t like it to see someone giving advice to someone, especially someone new, and then proceeding to argue with people who are also trying to give advice. It’s confusing for them and when I see things like that going on it does kind of upset me. We like having discussions and learning here, not arguments. :wink:

I’m not arguing with anyone. I’m just saying that everyone can’t have lucid dreams, and that lucid dreams aren’t uniformly wonderful.

People don’t want to hear that, but it’s the truth. I’ve been involved in this long enough to know

And really, must you use “we” when you speak? Queen Victoria got to talk that way, but it stopped with her.

Then I’ll be Queen Victoria for a few minutes since there are people here that agree with me.

“Everyone can’t have lucid dreams?” Looking at your grammar, you’re saying that no one can have lucid dreams. Sure, maybe not everyone cares about lucid dreaming. But the feel we try to go with here is that it IS possible with the right mindset and some tools and information that we do our best to provide and share. We’re not saying you can’t believe that not everyone can have an LD. We’re just saying it can discourage some people when we’re saying the exact opposite (and when we know that they can and we’ve seen it happen). It just takes time. I’m a natural as well. If I have the idea in my brain I can have them. If I don’t think about them I don’t have them. For others, it’s harder, but not impossible. Besides, I tend to have troubling dreams. Yet not all my LDs are like that. Sure, a lot of times I have problems doing things in them. But not all LDs are perfect. Most, if not all, of my LDs so far are NOT nightmares and are NOT full of negative emotions like my normal dreams tend to be sometimes.

I don’t see what’s so hard about supporting someone and encouraging them and giving them advice while they’re struggling instead of giving more discouragement.

I used to be a newspaper reporter and an editor. I know how to write. I’ve gotten paid to do it.

I’m not “discouraging” people. I’m telling them the truth. They might not be able to do it, and they need to know that. I’m not going to tell them that they’re not trying hard enough. That’s what’s discouraging.

And I’ve had lots of unpleasant LDs. In fact, most of them I have nowadays are unpleasant.

Thats why your the best, ZRVera, Rather have encouragement than put downs! :cool:

Are you saying I can’t write? I could do that same thing, as long as I’m not in front of a screen. I am a great writer, especially when I want to be. I did well on my papers even when I didn’t have an orthodox view on something because even teachers can appreciate a fresh viewpoint of different things, including anyalses of poetry and short stories. My point was that you said that everyone can’t lucid dream, not that not everyone can LD. Which is completely unrelated, but it is what you said. Do you think your job is to defend everything you say whether you contradict yourself or not? I did read your post about Castaneda, and there you said to SKIP the assemblage point and other things, and yet in one of your posts the reason you gave for looking at one’s hands was not as an RC but was for “fixating the assemblage point.” Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s a blatant contradiction to me. I’d also not read something like that by a notorious liar and a cult leader, because if he’s a liar, how do you know he’s not lying about LDs?

I really don’t see the logic in your arguments. My brain may not have common sense but I DO have logic. When I look at yours, you rarely provide concrete evidence, if at all, and I find contradictions in what you say, so really, I am not very inclined to believe you.

You were chiding me about my grammar, even though what I wrote was grammatically correct. Everyone can’t dunk a basketball. Does that mean that no one can dunk a basketball?

Most of what Castaneda said was false, but some of it was true, especially about lucid dreaming. How do I know that? Well, take a guess.

I’ll even give you a hint. I examined all of it in lucid dreaming.

It was grammatically correct, but not in the way you were intending. And yes, that is exactly what it means.

And how do I know what I know about lucid dreaming? By examining what I’ve learned here in my LDs. You know. Lots of people here, including me, have LDs and on a regular basis too, not just you. :tongue:

Enough on that, I’m tired of this.

/me hugs EmceeLew.

I’m always glad to help (as are many others)! There’s lots of us here around a lot, and in chat too! We’re always here to help! :help:

Signed,
Queen Victoria… I mean Vera. :rofl:

hahahaha okay queen victoria! lol I hug you too ZRVera your the man. /me hugs ZRVera :beer: