I have someone that controls my dreams, not sure if its just wicca just good @ lucid dreaming or both. How could i stop her from entrering and controling my dreams?? is it just practice?, shes been doing this for almost a year or so everynight, sometimes theyre ok sometime violent and disturbing 
I want to know a method that prevents me from dreaming. I want to stop dreaming, how do i do that?
No one doesn’t dream, it’s a natural part of life. Because of this, there is no way to stop yourself from dreaming. I mean, you could try to lose your DR, but the dreams will still happen. First off, what makes you think someone else is controlling your dreams? How do you know it’s someone else over, say, a weird recurring DC or a part of your SC?
I’m a bit of a skeptic when it comes to shared dreams and whatnot, but let’s assume someone has somehow gotten into your dreams. If you can become lucid, you can control your dream. Then, you could at least confront this person.
If it’s not another person, then you’re simply confronting a part of your mind. Again, I would like to know a bit more as to why you think you’re being controlled…
If you really believe there’s someone controlling your dreams… your mind will probally do as you wish.
Try thinking about other things, maybe get lucid? Once you notice that’s not what’s happening you will get out of it.
oh ive confronted them a couple times. but if youre a skeptic im not one to convince or even try, that debate will have no ending and it will drain me. long story short, we agreed to “dream date” a while ago, things got bad and i dont want to do it anymore .thats all. the things are so bizarre and vivid that i know im dreaming but sometimes i cant really do anything about it… sounds like i need lucid dream practice.
So… just to get this straight: this is a person that you know IRL? Because if so and this person is indeed invading your dreams (let’s let my personal believes out) then shouldn’t you simply confront that person IRL? First inquire if (s)he is indeed on purpose infiltrating your dreams and then secondly ask him/her to stop.
If it’s not someone from real life it should, as explained, be possible to solve this by a different mindset or by gaining better dream control.
Hmmm…This is very strange indeed. Now, did you meet them IRL or while lucid? Same question also goes for how did you decide to dream date…Lastly, this is interesting, because it doesn’t seem normal that you have confronted this person and have them continue to terrorize your dreams. This could be a step further to exploring shared dreams. Did you confront them while lucid?
the answers a little complicated, yes and no. she is a real person, but she thinks this is her job and wont stop. ive been asking her to stop for, oh say close to a year now, its been every night. when i got angry at her and started calling her namesIRL but just by my thoughts which she can read too, thats when the dream got violent.
uhm anyway the closest thing i could get to this situation would be to say, i met her on a wiccan forum, because she is wiccan, and im really not. and say she lived in another state (the whole reason we started this was distance). say we had alot in common and talked all the time online then she says “hey i just happen to know how to astral project and lucid dream”, (whatever you want to call it). and i agree not knowing what i was getting into…
it acually started off fine at first, we were even intimate, but like a RL relation ship all we do is fight and are not intimate anymore(in dream)
VERY interesting situation you’ve got. Now, based on what I understand of everything you have said, there are 2 possibilities of what is happening. Either A: your mind is propagating the idea that she is invading your dreams, or B: she really is and doesn’t want to leave.
In Case A, (which (for skeptics’ sake) would have the same effect whether it all began as a fluke/placebo or by some manner of witchcraft or shared dreaming) she may no longer be in your head, but rather just the thought of her. Like an after image, it’s just the memory of her that “haunts” your dreams. She might not be doing it, but when confronted she might feel compelled to lie and say she still is. There’s a simple way to find if this is true. Lie to her. Tell her something happened in the dream that didn’t. Like ask her why she did something that would be out of character for her. If she goes with it, you know she’s lying and not really in your head.
The solution: Realize that YOU are the only master of your own mind. She is not there (as you have proven) and thus she has no more control over your dreams. Realize it and move on. You will have normal dreams again and not have to worry about her.
Case B, is a little bit more interesting though. It may take a little bit more effort to get rid of her this way than in Case A, but it’s entirely possible. I am Pagan, and I do use spells and perform rituals as just a part of life. I am familiar with witchcraft and with the wiccan ways. She can not truly control your dreams nor even glimpse your mind unless you let her. Whether you want to or not, you are letting her in. By fearing or worrying or what ever, you are actually letting her in by acknowledging the fact that she can enter your dreams. Trying to stop dreaming won’t help you, as that is not possible in any healthy capacitance. Don’t avoid her, defend yourself from her.
The solution: Lock the door to your mind. Build a wall about you that she cannot pass through. This can be done many many ways. You can try a protection spell (counter her with her own ways). Even a simple meditation/visualization or repeating a mantra to yourself could work. Something to the effect of “I am the only master of my dreams”. Whichever suits you best. I would personally suggest, on top of what ever you do, visualize a string connecting you to her. Then cut the string and let the connection between you break.
In either case, the biggest key is to have confidence that what ever you do will work. You do this and I guarantee it will work. If you would like more specific advice, please feel free to ask. 
As for reading your mind. She may just be VERY intuitive 
I’ve had people SWEAR I was in their head’s, just because I picked up on subtle secrets that they didn’t realize they had hinted at. Don’t fear her because she can pick up on subtleties normally unnoticeable to others.
K i skipped straight to case B. I like that advice, ive been getting that tip alot, even though ive tried visualizations and self affiriming my own dream control, it hasnt worked but i think i just want ppersistent nough… some one even suggested i creat a maze for her to get lost in, a maze of energy, the center being my dream, and recite a spell that makes her lost when she tries to get through the walls…
as for her reading my thoughts, well. put it this way, i could just think “wear this color dress” and she would show up in that dress, or “watch this movie with me”. and thats what the dream would be about, she knows the sites i visit, shes had me meet people in dream i talk to online but never met. but anyway/ heres a quote from another pagan site i got about lucid dreamers:
im new to wicca so i dont know how to use herbs or gems, so i went straight for athe Goddess Kali… but i think i just need to focus harder
Not to say you’re wrong, because I don’t know the exact situation, but this would be a far stronger argument for her being just a projection from your own mind rather than a person invading. This is basic dream logic; if you envision her with a dress, and she comes from your own mind, she’s likely to wear that dress. This is another way to find out what’s really going on: If you learn to control this skill you should be able to turn her into everything; you could give her a big ol’ beard and a wooden leg.
Again I’m not saying you are wrong or to skepticize your beliefs but you’ve got to understand that for most people the ‘projection theory’ makes a lot more sense than witchcraft.
yea now im understandthing that now heh, even though one guy mentioned being pagan and doing spells that was cool, well i finally did one last night and i can say i did dream but i dont remember it really and i know it wasnt controlled, so i think i know what to do now, but thanks to you all anyway.
But she is a living human, with a cell phone and a facebook lol idk if i mentioned that earlier… and a gifted pyschic or w/e you want to call her… but yea, so far problem solved 
…Sounds like my idea (Ghostly Dreams with pain) I would of made a password to get in my dream. Like on computers and on the computer you could “kill” the internet. (hopefully its connected to your SC so the connection to the “bad guy” is dead.)
oh no This is some type Projection all the way, I was just mentioning wicca because other things withthin them that seem more than just dream walking.
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yea im looking more into things like that. If you could explain how i would do that that would be great.
One suggested i creat a maze, as he did with a similar situation… and he recited something before he sleeps along the line of the invader geting lost in it if they try to hop inside . the dream would be hidden inside the maze.
like this: Write down what your goals are, Ex: Go lucid, then close your eyes and say “I expect to see the computer that is connected to my SC in front of me.” then open your eyes. Find the lucid dreamer’s (or whatever she does to get to you) icon and kill it. But that may have a unwelcome side effect. (Me being a newbie at lucid dreaming, but I know the SC can do many things that the “smart people” say it just can’t.) It may close all connections. So a anti-dream invader firewall would be uses full too 
. Orrrr, you could meet your SC by doing the trick “I expect…” thing It works for me and tell him/her that every time the uninvited person comes in uninvited I want to ________. Always remember; in lucid dreaming, you can do ANYTHING.
ok i think i understand but Im really mising alot here. first let me just say its a girl.
second. if i delete the icon what kind of unwelcomed side effects are you talking about?
How would i make a firewall?
if i meet my sc am i meeting me or her(the DI)???.. she seems to be the most control and all, i dont even know what my sc sounds or thinks like 
Sorry, if I confused you.
I never have done any of this, and I would if I could turn lucid (which I haven’t in about 4 months, also if you can try to, don’t take my advise 100% it may be wrong.)
About the icon, it is probably best to forget I said anything about that. Its too confusing, even for me after reading 2 days later.
But all due respect, I don’t even know how to make a firewall that stops bad people within dreams. Before I was writing down how you should hire a scripter that can make a anti-invader firewall, on a computer thats connected to your SC, hopefully it works.
You can try to ask this person to stop in real life…
If none of this helps, don’t say I didn’t try… Sorry. 
You might want to do someone else’s advice.
lol no problem, i have a friend who was in a similar situation. He said that the SC would still be programmed to do what it is supposed to do which is dream. and that it would have a base code. Not only that he said the password and firewall idea would be easy to hack by a dream invader.
Seems to me you’re dealing with an exceptionally powerful lucid dreamer/psychic/whatever. In my experience, people like this are usually intelligent, enlightned and wouldn’t be doing this for the fun of it.
I know that you’re searching for ways to guard yourself, but you can try to think about what’s making her cause this to you. Eg. maybe she really just need someone to relate to, and invading your dreams is the way she can reach you ('cause you’ve let it happen earlier). If this is the case, you could try an agreement with her (in dreams, maybe) explaining she is hurting you and that you’d rather “waste” some IRL time chatting online about what’s bothering her than having her haunt your dreams every night.
Sure this is not a sure way to get her out of your life for good, but maybe compromise like this can give you some peaceful dreams at least.
I’m saying that cause my life is kinda messed right now, and I’m quite a burden for my ex. But she manages to now and then lend me a hand and hear me out. Maybe this is all evil-dream invading-witch needs too.
If you could tell more about your relationship, the dreams, etc. maybe it would be easier for them guys here to help you out.
yea i hear you, to make a long story short, she really only became a dream invader after I became jealus of her RL bf. Its funny you mentioned a burden to your ex, thats kind of how i became, I thought i was over it but wasnt, and since i didnt get over it thats when the dreams became worse really.
Things were ok in the begining, but pretty much all we do now is argue ina way. She just shows me things in dream either i already know or dont want to hear and it annoys me. She knows how i feel about this., she’s been lightening up a bit here latley. but yea, no guards or SC techniques ive tried have been working anyway so im just dealing with it.
Today my ex said I’m no burden at all, that she likes being there for me. So it’s even a little hard for me to believe, but for sure things will get better for us dude
If no guards or SC techniques you’ve tried have been working, put them aside and focus on what is making her ligthen up things. Probably the understanding that you’re deeply annoyed by this. Tell her you both can argue IRL / online - if dreams were meant to be shared/invaded it would be public knowledge. What she is doing is invading your privacy in so many levels.
Kind of a cruel note, but: be sure that whatever she’s doing will come back to her. Karma is a bitch. Specially when one uses a very special gift to knowingly harm the next. This probably means nothing for now, but it can give you a sense of justice at least.