fed up of deep sleep

First of all hello to everybody. I’m a lucid dreamer wannabe from Turkey :smile:

After seeing the movie inception, most of my friends have found it silly but I didn’t think that way. I surfed the internet that night for hours and found out about lucid dreaming. After that I’ve realized that I’ve had lucid dreams when i was a kid. (A couple of times) Maybe they were false lucid dreams I’m not sure… But a couple of times I realized that I was dreaming and woke myself up because I didn’t think that I could control my dream.

For about a week, I’m reading about lucid dreaming everyday and trying to do the essentials like RC, dream journal, mantra etc. But I have a very big problem; I’m sleeping too deeply that I don’t remember anything. I’m like dead at night and return to life in the morning. So that makes it impossible to fill up the dream journal I have. I have remembered only 1 dream in 1 week and I remembered it during the day. (abt 2 hrs after I woke up) I could only remember very little about it. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night and I try to remember my dream. In 5 seconds I fall asleep again.

I’ve read about setting the alarm clock etc. but it sounded like a pain. I don’t think I have to suffer to have some fun :smile:

I really beleive that if I can dream, I can become lucid. I know that I dream a couple of times each night but it doesn’t help me if I can’t remember them. It’s the same as not dreaming.

Does any of you have any suggestions at this point? I’ve read most of the tutorials and most of the suggestions. I need something that can really help me out. I desperately want to be lucid!!

Thanks in advance…

:content: I have this problem sometimes. When you wake up, write in your DJ. Write a feeling, a random thought you don’t know the source of, anything! Eventually, your SC will get used to the idea of remembering what it thought about at night and you’ll have better recall.

What if I say I don’t even have a feeling or a thought?
I know I’m difficult :smile:

Are you getting enough sleep? When you wake up do you feel like time has passed since you went to sleep?

When I’m extremely tired I will have that deep sleep where the night just goes by in an instant with no sense of time passing by.

Are you as able to fall asleep as quickly in the morning? If you are then trying WILD when you would normally get up at the weekend may work for you.

Yeah i have the same type of sleep almost everyday. i fall asleep, like a minute later i wake up.

ive never tried the wild technique. i consider it as a forced ld and i feel that it wont be as real. (i might be totally wrong :smile: )
But i will definitely try that one too if i can not succeed.

Yesss!!!
I ve remembered my dream in detail when I woke up this morning. I think it will improve in time. I hope… :smile:

:open_mouth:
You consider a WILD as a forced LD!? Well, isn’t that what you want? Sometimes WILDs can be as vivid as real life!

Why do you see WILDs as forced LDs?

I dont know… Could it be because i’ve never experienced it? :smile:

Besides, it is scary after reading people having weird experiences while trying WILD :smile:

WILD’s are as natural as any other type of LD. The experiences can be weird, but I’ve always found them very interesting :tongue: never really scarry. They are only scarry if you want them to be. nothing can hurt you. I’ve heard the most vivid and beautiful music in a stage between waking and asleep (where you have to go through when you WILD so… )

Keep working on your dream recall first. Do as puffycloud said and wrute down anything at all you remember. With a little practice you’ll start remembering more. Check the forum for topics on dream recall

and welcome :wave:

thank you for the help and the warm welcome :smile:

SP and OBE are scary for me because of a common belief we have in Turkey… I don’t want to write about it right now, maybe I will later…

As you have said, first of all I’ll focus on dream recall and MILD. If they don’t work I’ll try other methods. I might also give some dream pills a try if none of the methods work but I think I can succeed without them. I feel myself as a natural born lucid dreamer :smile:

Happy dreaming…

a W.I.L.D. is nothing but transferring from WL to the dreamworld.
thats all it really is.
any of the “side-effects” from this is completely natural and arent even side effects from this specific form of dreaming, it can happen to anyone who goes to sleep.
they dont even have to be trying for a lucid dream, it just happens.
as for that specific form of sleep, where you feel like only a minutes passed by and its been 8-10 hours, thats only happened to me once in my life, but i felt like a zombie that entire day, like i didnt get any sleep whatsoever.
but considering its only happened once to me, i cant help you there.
when it comes to dream recall, all it really takes is practice.
every night, just write down anything at all in your dream journal, even things you remember later on in the day, but you cannot stop this process, or else your dream recall will suffer because of it.
as you start remembering bits and pieces of dreams, complete dreams will follow, and probably become more detailed overall.
as for an example, i date my journal so i can see the difference in dream recall, see if i need to be more involved or not.
i recently got into lucid dreaming, right before the summer, and the first dream i entered was in 5/13/10, when i started on 5/1/10.
the next was at 5/17, 5/20, 5/26, and then 6/2.
thats 5 in a month.
now i can recall at least 20-30 in a month, nearly a dream a night.
just takes practice.