I tried WILD last night and for the first time I actually got close. Contrary to most advice, I tried it right when I got into bed instead of after several hours of sleeping. I’ve tried it the other way as well, but I think my body only needs ~4 hours of sleep because every time I try it in the middle of the night I just lie in bed awake. So this time, I went to bed ~2 hours later than I usually do, and focused on WILDing. I got close, and probably would have made it if I didn’t get scared.
My question is: how do you deal with the “choking point” of WILD? It felt like my body was trying to swallow my tongue, and my throat was tightening up. Despite my body naturally doing this I still had control over it, so after going what seemed like 30 seconds without breathing I made myself stop. I also tried breathing while my throat was that tight and it made me start snoring - I guess now I understand why people snore. I also heard a ringing noise at first, but over time it changed…it sounded weird, I guess that’s normal though. Also random muscles in my body started twitching, I don’t think they actually were but it felt like they were moving. Overall, it felt like what I imagined having a seizure would feel like.
So how do you get past that? What exactly are you supposed to do when it feels like someone is grabbing your neck and you can’t breathe? Are you supposed to go long periods of time without breathing, because it freaked me out…
Actually, you ARE breathing What happens is your SC gets control of the breathing and then when you try to consciously breathe you can’t. That’s why it feels like you’re suffocating. Nothing to worry about because your SC is taking care of everything.
The trick to get past this is to try to completely ignore it. It might be hard, but try to not think about the breathing and focus on what you would want to dream about or on any HI if you’ve got them.
I have a question about WILD. It seems like everyone is having a problem getting into their dream, but my problem is staying in my dream. I can get into my dream in a matter of seconds, but when I try to become conscious of my dream and get lucid, I fall back out of the dream. I can’t spin around or rub my hands together in my dream because I would have to be conscious to do that. Any suggestions?
Okay so I have only recently started experimenting with WILD. I am familiar with relaxation exercises and have been practicing maintaining awareness while relaxing the body.
Let me briefly describe my experiences so far. At first I just try and passively observe my thoughts and let them go. I then systematically relax my body starting with my facial muscles. I then try to silently observe my thoughts while my body is becoming relaxed. I have experienced slight visuals taking the form of a very dim swirling whitish/gray light I suppose you could call it. Today while practicing I reached this level where there were no visuals but suddenly my body felt very “energized”. My heart began to beat faster and I kind of told myself to come back to my body. I didn’t know else where to take it.
Could someone explain to me what I have experienced so far? How close am I towards the level of carrying this over to lucid dreaming?
i have felt the same thing i think you are talking about i had no visuals after a long time after i had layed down and then sudenly my body just felt like a surge of power went through it.
i aint sure what it is but from what people say i think its sleep paralysis
oh btw my heart raced after the surge of power went through my body and i think it woke me up to much so i just quit
[mod]Edited in double post, please use edit. [/mod]
I tried WILD this morning for the first time (used in conjunction with WBTB) and I found it suprisingly quite easy . I kept my mind clear of any thoughts and my body slowly started to fall asleep and I felt the SP kick in, after about 15 minutes white light filled my vision. After passively observing the white light it resided and I knew I was dreaming.
I looked at my hands and they had a faint glow around them so I knew I had entered the dream. My problem was that I was stuck in blackness, like a void and before I knew it my body was sort of free falling in the void which ended up waking me up after a few seconds.
Does anyone know what I could do the next time im in a situation like that?
ok i was just trying WILD and i could always see things like dots behind my eyes before i sleep but i never got the buzzing kind of high in my body till now i was telling myself im going to dream and im going to be aware of it then i could see the dots apear into translusent shapes but then i got to exited and i shot out of it and had to start again and a few times i could feel my body twisting and turning kind of like i was falling out of a tunnle and i was about to enter the dream world but my heart started beating fast and i got to exited and i shot out of it again and had to start over i also find it easier to let my mind drift and still try to be aware that i’m about to dream instead of thinking about dreaming and telling myself im about to dream and try to be aware im about to sleep its hard for me to sleep when im thinking about dreaming and sleep will i get used to it?? a couple of times i sarted to see color and i could see what was around me and i think i could tell i was in a dream but i got to exited again and had to start over maybe i just need practice?? i also think i had a small OBE i was sleeping on my stomach but all of the sudden it was like i was on my back looking at my celing is that what is was?? is there a certain position i should sleep??
After trying WILD a few times without success, I got pretty far yesterday, I think. After relaxing and repeating a mantra I had several somatic HH (numbness, tingling, suffocating) and then somehow, suddenly my consciousness opened up into a different state, I was awake but somehow in a different world, my mind floating in some kind of fuzzy darkness. It felt good and light and new, but I didn’t know what do next. Finally I dozed off into dreamless sleep. Do you have any suggestions where to go when I reach this different state of consciousness?
BTW, later on I incidentally had a lucid dream, it was very short though and I don’t remember much about it.
hmm, I’m not quite sure what this different state of consciousness was… Did you get any HI or auditory HH?
In this state what did you feel? I’ve had “something” a couple times where I’m perfectly conscious and I can feel my body increadibly relaxed in bed. It’s so relaxed that, although I can move it if I want, I just don’t feel like it. My mind is relaxed and very calm too. My breathing gets very deep and seems to be almost automatic. Was it something like this? In this state I felt like my body was asleep in a dreamless sleep, but I don’t know.
Otherwise I’m not sure what this state was so I don’t know what to do next I bet someone else will be able to help you better.
Thanks for the response, Mattias…I didn’t have any “tangible” HI, just sometimes amorphous patterns of light and darkness, sometimes flashes of images but all with a certain “imaginary” quality. I would expect HI to be more concrete. I’m not sure about auditory HH either, sometimes I heard something, but it sounded more like a tinnitus that came and went.
About that state of consciousness…I tried my best to describe it …it was a feeling of lightness, maybe like floating, but not as a bodily perception, more like as if my mind was floating.
Sounds very much like it. The point for me was that suddenly something had shifted in my state of mind and I felt different than before.
I tried WILDing again last night but it went differently…it somehow felt as if I was running (or drifting, for that matter) against a wall. I was in a relaxed state, counting, etc. and trying to follow what I think was an early form of HI, but nothing happened. Maybe I was to awake? I tried to relax more, but this got me nowhere, and after some time I gave it up and went to sleep.
I set my alarm clock btw and tried WILD again in the morning, but it seems to never work for me in the morning…before I am fully relaxed I’m already sleeping.
does anyone else have the problem of the swallow reflex? whenever i try to wild i get stuck on the fact i need to keep swallowing which throws sleep paralysis off completely. iv never been able to wild. And mild has never worked really either, dild is the only way i ever ld. luckily that happens pretty often tho.
PS. And another thing, am i the only one who (occasionally when im really tired) start dreaming as soon as they close their eyes? Im talking about really complicated full-on scenes within seconds of closing my eyes. It only happens when im really tired, but everyone iv ever spoken to has never experienced it. I can sometimes describe my dreams out loud to people as im dreaming them, in this state.
anyway, this post was mainly about the swallow-reflex thing, i would love to learn to wild. I can get to sleep paralysis and mild HI really easily, but the swallow-reflex throws me off completely.
I sometimes have similar problems with the swallow reflex, but mostly I just fall asleep after 5-10 minutes trying to WILD. Also, I just can’t lie on the back, I can’t relax in that posture.
Hey guys. I’ve been experimenting with WILD recently and have a question.
Sometimes when relaxing, i get a slight sinking feeling and a very loud “rushing sound” in my ears. But with no other HI present. What do i do from here? Do i relax and wait, or do i visualize a scene?
It’s important to relax, and try to forget your body. Since that will help you transition into the dream. You could visualise a scene, since that would take your attention away from reality, although it isn’t a requirement as such.
hahaha last night i tried WILD without WBTB. it was quite funny for me.
it was really late at night and i was on the verge of falling asleep while sitting up in bed so i decided to try it. i don’t experience sleep paralysis so it just started with the HI. i was balancing on a concrete edge of a road near school and my foot slipped, but it caused a hypnagogic jerk from my leg and woke me up.
thankfully sleep paralysis comes a little later, otherwise i’d be roaming the streets in less than 10 mins
If you have questions about WILD, or if you’re new to it, i think you may find your answers if you check out these videos. I think it’s also important for everybody on this topic to realize that WILD takes more than a few tries. you really just have to do it till you find out how it works for you.
If you feel like you have to swallow just swallow. The trick is not to concentrate on swallowing. You swallow while you are sleeping, so it is possible to do it unconsciously. If you’re good enough you will be able to fall asleep in a matter of seconds and won’t have time to worry about swallowing, or itching or all the other distractions.
I also dream while I’m awake and really tired. If I get out of bed with only two hours of sleep, I’ll be dreaming while I’m getting ready for the day. It is very interesting because it is not really a lucid dream although it probably could become one if I wasn’t concentrating on staying awake.
Ok, so last night i tried WILD combined with WBTB while listening to binaural beats. I set my alarm for 2:30 in the morning, and about as soon as i started counting i entered sleep paralysis. Once i got into SP i didn’t really know what to do. I felt a sinking feeling and stuff and was hoping that was going to be the beginning of HI, but nothing really came, i just had a ton of random thoughts and images that kept popping into my head. Was that HI? Do you guys have any suggestions on what i should do?
Thanks
I’ve got a question. Do you concentrate on the things that you see with eyes closed(you know just observing like with opened eyes) or on the things that you imagine.
I also heard a ringing noise at first, but over time it changed…it sounded weird, I guess that’s normal though. Also random muscles in my body started twitching, I don’t think they actually were but it felt like they were moving. Overall, it felt like what I imagined having a seizure would feel like. 
What happens is your SC gets control of the breathing and then when you try to consciously breathe you can’t. That’s why it feels like you’re suffocating. Nothing to worry about because your SC is taking care of everything.
[/mod]
. I kept my mind clear of any thoughts and my body slowly started to fall asleep and I felt the SP kick in, after about 15 minutes white light filled my vision. After passively observing the white light it resided and I knew I was dreaming.
…it was a feeling of lightness, maybe like floating, but not as a bodily perception, more like as if my mind was floating.
Hey guys. I’ve been experimenting with WILD recently and have a question.