People are either:
- Ignorant
- Bigoted
- Close-minded
- Not interested
- All (or different combinations) of the above
So, the answer is no.
People are either:
So, the answer is no.
Like I said, if a documentary was made, you’d have to have an interview with Laberge.
But I’m not very confident in our ability to put something of TV quality together. I think we’d have a much better shot of sending it into some channel as a suggestion.
A lot of people are really closed minded, but I suppose it also depends on where you are.
And what age they are in!
I agree with Paradise Lost. Try to spread the word if you wish… but people are skeptical in the least and many will try to put you down or declare you are wrong in at least one way. Someone needs to develop a technique for discussing Lucid Dreaming, seriously. I’ve tried sharing it with people - but the best reaction I got was “I don’t dream so whattttevverrr”.
So should we make that a project?
“Developing discussion methods that increases the interests in lucid dreaming”
I like the sound of that! As you said it would be hard for any average person to put together a TV quality doco… most people dont even own a camera or have the money to travel to visit Stephen La’Berge let alone contact him and convince him to do it.
So if we were to just send in a suggestion how would we go about it? It’s usually channels in America like “The history channel” and “BBC documentary channel” that play documentaries on things like that. Perhaps we could all write a letter to the BBC website or something.
Firstly, I have seen topics from people all over the world about members (or other people) believing that LDing is something satanic or bull**** like that.
Secondly, the best approach to tell people who have never heard of it would be a scientific one. That’s what people want to hear. Leave OBEs, AP, and SGs out at the beginning, or at least present also rational views about them. Ghosts scare people.
I tell alot of people about LDing, I let my supervisor at work borrow the movie “Waking life”, I cant wait to see what he thinks about it. Then Ill talk to him about lucid dreaming.
Doesn’t anyone appreciate dreaming as being an “insider” kind of thing? Where you feel that only smart people deserve to be able to remember dreams and have lucid dreams?
That’s how I feel about it.
Yes to #1, umm not really for #2
I wouldn’t say “smart”
I think part of the awesome is that it’s really not a popular thing.
But that’s just me, i really don’t like talking about it to my friends. It’s just weird for some reason…
That depends on how you define smart.
I for example would say that at least half of the people on this forum is thrown out of that ctegory. But that’s just me.
No names mentioned
@ OBE and so on…
You should be VEY sceptical about things that has not been scientifically proved. In common and while speaking to someone about LDs.
Introduce them to the subject but keep it very sceptical.
As far as I did when I talked about it in school, I said that “some people belive that they are able to share dreams with eachother, and perform astral projection using the lucid dreams. However, you should be very sceptical against any of these claims, as none of them have been scientifically proved.”
I consider smart as original and creative people that don’t follow every stereotype that’s set out for them. That includes all of us I think.
So intellegence and logic thinking has nothing to do with it?
Say how much you actually know when it comes to facts?
Well who are we to judge others?
That’s why I said tell them how to remember their dreams, then move on to lucid dream. Most people are still under the impression they don’t dream, instead of the fact that they just don’t remember it. I’ll post my method of getting people interested on my blog, I think.
That means you have a good memory if you can quote facts.
Then you say, what about finding theories and interpreting them?
That’s applying facts, using your mind and imagination. In the end, just because you know a bunch of facts and people call you intelligent doesn’t mean you’re smart. It means that you have a good memory.
There is quite a difference, or at least when it comes to math and logic.
Exactly… it’s a bit strange, actually. They refuse to accept that they really do dream (at least in my experience).
We are starting to read Romeo and Juliet in our English class. Somehow (I wasn’t really paying attention) we got onto the topic of dreams. The teacher asked some question about dreaming (didn’t hear it, again ). My friend, who is also kind of interested in dreaming, talked about Lucid Dreaming. Someone else responded that they don’t dream at all. He explained that they really did, and just forgot it.
The person quickly responded with something like “No! I really don’t dream!” Some other people in the class agreed, so my friend gave up explaining.
Pretty depressing.
Getting alien-ated by people isnt much fun…
I don’t see how people can say “I never dream” otherwise how would they know what a dream is in the first place? they must have had at least one dream in their life geez. I would hate to wake up each day with this feeling of missing time and not remembering anything between going to bed and waking up.