Just counteract with a huge mug of coffee, you’ll be right
I used this stuff for the past month, the strongest form I could find. I found no noticable effect on dreams, memory, lucidity, concentration or the colour of my goldfish. Actually that’s not entirely true… I don’t have a goldfish.
Guess it doesn’t work as well for everyone.
Just counteract with a huge mug of coffee, you’ll be right
I found that when I started to take GB some years ago my dream activity seemed to diminish so I read up a little about the herb. I discoved that GB has been shown to promote stronger alpha and beta brain waves patterns…the ones that are associated with daytime wakefullness. So I stopped taking it and my dream abilities returned. But then again I often go through cycles of different levels of DR and LDing ability so I suppose it doesn’t really prove anything. Still, it wonder if it might be better to concentrate on things that will increase theta, delta, and rem to aid with LDs.
“My advice to anyone is just to let them come naturally. Anyone who tries to force an LD to happen with constant overuse of techiniques is probably just setting themselves up for a dissapointment. If you have an active interest instead of an obsession and enjoy and respect your Lucid Dreams when they come then you’ve done enough to be one your way to the next one.”
Well I jumped in here late enough eh?
I do not agree with this as Stephen Laberge, through effort, obtained demonstrable results ( a LD every night at will) but he points out that proper effort is what is required.
I would say our quest is to find the effort that is proper for us because it is a learned skill.
Gosh, I’d say you are settling for a baseline of 2 a week and with all of your experience you could easily improve upon that if you actually wanted to…
Do you journal?
HERE’s a question: Can you GROW GB?
Yes, it is a beautiful ornamental tree, one of the oldest species in the world. We have been selling it in the flower shop.
I have started to keep a journal again Reyth and it’s helping greatly. Already I am having more vivid dreams and more dream recal. Hmm, maybe I’ll make my goal one lucid dream per night…rather like a one-a-day vitamin.
I also failed to mention Tholey had the same results of 1 LD daily.
I’m using his technique right now and I kind of like it. I actually posted the technique here:
I’m actually coming back after a 4 year break and haven’t implemented everything I want to yet – I want to use my dream journal to make a dream-cue mandala as well.
I’d say journaling is the best way to have lucid dreams.
Are you familiar with Stephen Laberge’s 4 category dreamsign system?
I have been taking Ginkgo Biloba (Combi, includes several other vitamines and minerals) for 2 weeks now, but I do not notice any effects.
My poor dream recall hasn’t improved the last 2 weeks.
It’s as worse as always.
One tablet contains 150mg Ginkgo Biloba standardized extract.
I take 1 tablet right before bedtime, is this the right time or should I take them in the morning?
I will continue to take them for another 2 weeks, before making some definitive conclusions.
Here are some helpful links on dream recall:
Hope these help with your recall too.
I can remember a time I used to have a few LDs per night… those were the good old days, lol. But now I would be very happy with just 1 LD per night, so that’s my goal.
Thanks for posting Tholey’s technique. I do use some of his points, yes. I think I will start to leave myself littles notes around the house…on the fridge, TV, etc., asking if I’m dreaming.
I do state tests but I’ve sometimes managed to fool myself with these. The odd time writing doesn’t move in my dreams and I think not dreaming. Or I can not seem to fly, just jump a little so I convince myself I’m still in the waking world. They usually work though except for the odd times my brain plays tricks on me.
Number 3 of the techniques I do often just because it’s fun I love pretending I’m dreaming especially if I’m doing something boring at the time.
I do number 4 as well…plan my next lucid dreams. They usually involve flying all the time and often turning into something or someone else.
I am familiar with Stephen Laverge’s books and teachings, they have really helped me develope my skills. I used to be on the Lucidity Institute’s forum a few years back.
Sorry for getting off topic…just to make this GB related…I still do take a little gingko, there is a small amount in my Green’s plus I don’t take it on a daily basis though, just occasionally.
Alright, I just bought some ginko bilboa and I took 5 60mg tablets 6 hours before sleeping. Lets see what happens.
awesomer, the recommended dose of gingko is 50-75 mg. Especially for young people like you, i don’t think it is a very good idea to take large doses of any herb. I would start with taking one capsule a day like it says on the package.
I was just following the directions made on the first post.
I had mentioned GB gave me headaches in the past. I decided to give it a try again, 240 mg a couple of hours before bed. My dreams are definitely more vivid, but I’m still not lucid.
Oh, and no headaches. I actually found a number of items that triggered headaches and they seemed to have a cumulative effect. The herb alone doesn’t do it apparently.
It’s almost 3 weeks ago since my last post in this topic.
I have taken Ginkgo Biloba for almost 5 weeks now, but dream recall hasn’t improved. Just as poor as always.
Ginkgo Biloba doesn’t work for me. I did not notice any other effects.
(Like all other things I have done the past 6 years)
Before giving up on Ginko, find your local medical herbalist and ask for Ginko Biloba tincture. Tinctures from medical herbalists are the most potent, double the strength for only half the price. I wouldn’t even bother with shop products because I know how superior herbs from a proper medical herbalist are. Take the maximum dose they recommend (which should be 30 drops in a little water 3 times a day).
Give that a go for a few weeks, and you should have much better results.
I have recently bought Ginkbo Biloba tablets that isays each tablet containing 100mg og GB leaf-extract. Is this the real 100mg extract or is it still just the less strength leave version?
Also, is it possible to just take this on occasions when you’re expecting to have a lucid dream? i.e. you have plans to do the WBTB the next morning.
Due to a busy schedule I am not able to focus on my dreams everyday, thus I would really be happy if I don’t have to eat tablets everyday still because it becomes quite expensive over time…
and which one of the side effects kills you? lol
cygnus, are you sure your not also just setting yourself up for defeat? it sound like your going to bed thinking, “-sigh- just as usual when i wake up, im probobly not going to remember a thing”. of course that could not be the case anyways. but try to have a positive outlook, but keep on it im sure that your dr will get better
I have had same periods when I had such thoughts, but this was after having a positive outlook for an extended period of time without much result. After taking a break, I continued to have a postive outlook. Just like now
During the day and when going to sleep, I am saying to myself that I have an excellent dreamrecall and such other affirmations.
It cannot be said that I am not persistent to achieve a better dreamrecall. Being busy with it the past six years
Why my dreamrecall doesn’t improve? Dunno…
There must be something different, which blocks my quest for better dreamrecall.
I am still taking my Ginkgo Biloba tablets, I have only got a few left. After this I will try your suggestion to take the Ginko Biloba tincture.
i wanna get my hands on some of that tincture, but im a bit its a bit out of my price range. so far ive been taking 180 mg of ginko a day, 60 more than the bottle says, and im getting some good results no ld’s yet but im getting some good recall…that is if i bother to record it after i wake up, which i usually dont due to the fact that the recalls real good making the dream real long and another fact is that i just wanna go back to sleep darn my lust for sleep. but hey, ima gettin results so this is workin so far