Help with (what I think) is WILD.

Quest for Lucidity
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Last night, I was having quite a bit of trouble getting to sleep, (went to bed around 10, didn’t get to sleep until after 12:30) so I decided I’d try WILD, as I’ve only tried it once before but failed, (with a WBTB before it though), and I figured it would be at least worth an effort.

So, I start to count down from 100, and get to 0, and repeat this about 4 times before I can’t focus anymore. I see the words in my head, and they get out of focus and I start to feel some mild disorientation. Nothing big, but it gets harder and harder to not lose count, (and i find myself starting over quite a bit). Then, my whole body starts to feel numb, (like it does when cut off circulation and its like ants are running up you). Then, I start to feel vibrations coming from underneath me that sounds like someone in my house is blaring a very bass-intensive song downstairs. So far, it’s been about 30 minutes.

A little bit later, hypgogic images start appearing, but they’re not like hallucinations, (is that how they normally are?) they’re just like light patterns, but it doesn’t feel like I’m seeing them, but they’re in my head. At this point, it’s been awhile, and I think I’d just like to get some sleep and not worry about it anymore. I figure going directly to sleep and succumbing to my body would be the way to go, so I don’t move or open my eyes.

Well, that proved to be more trouble than it was worth, needless to say. I fell asleep, and an undefined amount of time later, I suddenly feel a jolt of electricity in my fingers, and my hand involuntary curls up. At this point, I can’t move my tongue, and it feels like I have an extra amount of heavy, numb skin covering my body. I can still vaguely feel the blankets around me, but it doesn’t feel like i’m being touched by them directly, (if that makes sense).

Suddenly, the phone rings, and a jolt of electricity snaps me out of it. Very startling.

1 hour, and I still didn’t get into a dream state. Am I doing something wrong? I read today that you shouldn’t do it in the evening, and I was more on the dot with my WBTB method I tried a few years ago.

Say hypothetically, if I had done this with WBTB, would I have gotten it? (If this question doesn’t make sense, let me know).

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Also, the reason I didn’t put this into the BIG WILD thread is because I’ve never read about anything exactly like this. Some of the symptoms I’ve listed seemed common, but I’ve never read this combination, (and staggering amount of time and little progress) before.

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theres not really a way you can tell if you would have gotten it had you done WBTB first, as it would be an entirely different situation and your mind wouldn’t be in the exact same state. but, had everything gone like it did that night before after WBTB, and the phone didn’t ring… it sounds like you could’ve easily done it.

i personally find WBTB about a quadrillion times easier to do WILD than when initially sleeping.

those occurences are very interesting, but i wouldn’t say they are out of the ordinary, just good old hypnagogic sensations/imagery. good job and good luck in the future.