you also need to do an RC if you think you are free of the paralysis/floating and have “woken up”
you probably haven’t unless you were getting really scared or excited, or you tried to move.
I didn’t use to believe in OBEs in the supernatural aspect, but now I’m starting to think they are significantly different than LDs… but I’m not sure if this is just a placebo for me.
What I learned today/last night is that the HI state is vastly different than the vibrational state.
I tried to WILD last night and spent a very long time on it, somehow I lost consciousness/memory then was in vibrations… now… this gave me an OBE, I was rather scared at the time, being my first directly conscious WILD… but I noticed the movement was directed exactly by thought, it feels like being possessed, like why did I just whisk to my window? Oh, becuase I thought about it… but I still had a “deformed” sort of “body” somehow that I could move… so I think I was in a hybrid OBE/LD…
So anyway, the thing is, I wanted to LD, okay, not OBE, I tried to make HI, I tried to ride a roller coaster to simulate the falling feeling so I could fall into a dream… but I couldn’t… if I were in the right state it would have been easy, but, my body was clearly already fairly too deep into sleep to allow for that… (hey i could have been dreaming already? it didn’t seem that way)
So… I settled for separation.
The odd thing is, when I wake up in the morning, if I enter paralysis, I can/do often times enter clear LDs and places I want to go to, rather than my room, however any vibrations are subtle at best, and imagination and HI works.
I think there are a vast number of different sleep states you can be conscious in that produce different results… and I think that I was in fairly deep this time, too deep for traditional dreaming (which is why when I awoke I couldn’t just pop back to sleep, I had to intiate the sleep process all over again) so I’m not sure that I would say I was in REM at all… and I had already gone through any HI that were there.
It was odd… maybe you can’t do an traditional LD if you find yourself floating, or maybe it soley depends on a huge number of sleep cycle factors.
What I’ve found is conscious HI = good astral projections or lucid dreams, HI + vibrations = astral projection for sure.
Paralysis without vibrations = LD or OBE
Heavy vibrations = OBE, less likely to LD it seems.
Falling asleep/groggy + HI = LD if you can stay conscious, or if you wait long enough while not really aware but trying to stay inside, it takes you to the deep vibrations for an OBE into your room.
Hmm… it’s kind of like different trance states I guess, maybe.
This was probably more confusing than helpful but I know that I just could not LD from those vibrations for the life of me, maybe I wasn’t calm enough.
It just sort of seems like there are different states of paralysis now…