Hm, you speak the truth in this, never really thought about it like that.
hahahhaha, exactly! The biggest problem of all is I usually don’t notice the thoughts creeping back. I’ll be with my mind empty and suddenly I’ve been thinking about something useless for a couple minutes 
there’s many levels to an empty mind.
you could have no conscious thoughts in your mind, but there can still be thought pressure in your mind.
The ultimate state is one in which you are free from both thoughts and pressure,
in which your mind is completely silent and no thoughts are even attempting to enter.
Wolvendeer
I believe that all obstacles we have were chosen by us before we came here,
so you probably just figured you won’t need such a challenge, or maybe you thought you needed a calm mind.
I’ve noticed I’m able to silent my conscious thought. Usually then I’ll start perceiving unconscious thoughts (which are cool to listen to 
). But I haven’t gotten past that…
Ghostie this is soooooo cute!
i do many different things, to quiet the mind, i quiet the mind.
I think I’m getting a bit better at meditation. 
The other morning, right after I woke up, I tried to empty my mind a bit. There was some noise outside (cars, dogs,…) but I was able not get distracted by it for a few seconds. Not much, I know, but usually it’s very hard for me. I could still hear them, but they seemed different, hard to explain. Distant, maybe. I was able to focus on my breath. The fact that I was sleepy might have helped though…
and last night I was able to empty my mind and keep it empty for a while. I got this thing I’ve got a few times randomly. I focus my attention on my forehead and I feel a light funny kind of pressure. What and why is this? 
Could be a lot of things.
Whatever it may be, it is probably positive, you either released stress (strain in the physical terminology) or maybe some limiting belief or mind set.
You have developed in some way.
You can get many of these pains along the way, and the further ahead you go, the less you will experience them.
Great to hear you’re making progress
cool and thanks! 
but it wasn’t painful at all. It was actually a bit confortable. Interesting at least. I even kept my attention there for as long as I could 
I was assuming that…
since it is usually like that and I have experienced quite a bit of these pains in different areas of my body.
enjoy
I personally don’t metitate.
I think I’ll try it sometime…
I think I will just lay or sit on my bed…
Empty my thoughts. escape to the inner depths of my mind.
Let myself drift into a daydream, maybe I will think about a lighted forest, sun shimmering through the trees. Everything will have a faint yellow glow.
All the people I care about from the past and present will be there.
I will see ghosts, peaceful and smiling. (I don’t know why, but happy ghosts seem to relax me…call me weird. ) I can walk the beach and look off onto the tropical horizon…
Yeah… I think I’ll do that.
i learned a good way to quiet the mind
inhale through the nose, and hold your breath until you want to exhale, and exhale through the mouth
then hold that until you want to inhale, through the nose
do 2-3 times then breath normally
when you are holding the breath, your mind is silent.
i wanna discuss
is the aim of meditation to be in the trance state, not awake, not asleep, focused and balanced,
or is it to be wide awake, and working with cosmic energies ?
From what I understood in a book I’m reading (I’ll check the name later 
), emptying the mind is only the first step. Meditation itself is watching whatever enters your mind without ignoring it or getting carried away, or something like that.
would meditation work if you think of a song and play it in your head?
to make your mind silent you only need to listen to your thoughts as if they were coming out of your mouth
and then, pause
the word “so” is pretty good
mah mind is thinking… “so…” as if i’m waiting for it to respond,
just like people do in conversations…
I meditaded yesterday, and this morning I remembered a lucid dream. 
I’m new to this, done it three times. Well, two, to be exact.
Yesterday I found some meditation music on YouTube, which helped me to concentrate on my breathing. I sat in the lotus position in my coach, and focused on my breathing for about 10 minutes. The last 7 minutes I imagined an “energy ball” between my eyes, which I kinda cleaned with my breath. It was sad and blue, but now it’s red. Red is good.
I didn’t know what to think of at the rest of the day. No sound could annoy me 
great!
keep up the good work
P.S.
You’ll find it more and more rewarding as you go 
That’s the activity of your brow chakra/energy center, which is number 6 on this site. Here you can read more about them.
Just by thinking about it, mine is lighting up! Back when I did OBE training, (which I later abandoned) I did plenty of work with the structures of my energy body and energy raising. Even before I worked on my main chakras I had a powerful response from my brow chakra.
Sometimes during meditation I get a response like that in my crown chakra at the top of my head, that which has to do with a spiritual connection with the divine. I’ve also had experiences with the heart center while contemplating unconditional love, the solar plexus center, and the sensual energy of chakra number two.
So yes, this is a good thing! 
Nowadays my understanding of meditating and staying in the moment have deepened from what they were before. I meditate by focusing my awareness in my body, thus anchoring my awareness into the present moment so that my mind doesn’t wander. It doesn’t have to be a forceful thing. You don’t have to force your mind to be still, and instead of seeing the sounds around you as distractions, focus on them as part of your meditation. When I do this, I focus on my body right now, sometimes watching the flow of my breath and letting sound flow into me.
In my experience, it has. When I first started meditating and LDing three years ago, the combination of meditating, keeping a DJ, and telling myself over and over again that I’d have a lucid dream every night, and RCing have helped me to have lucid dreams a few nights a week. When I took meditation out of the picture it ceased. Nowadays I don’t try to LD so I only have them on rare occasions.
there is a lot of junk in the psychic plane associated with seeing from the brow center
crown chakra is recommended
when i say junk, its an understatement,
do you wanna see people’s subconscious gar-bajjjj? no! (its not so fun)
I do things like that all the time: Create visual imagery and scenarios of jofully reconecting with the radiant spirits of those that are important to me. Some of it was inspired by reading about near death experiences.
I do that sometimes, too. You can even play music you find uplifting and focus on that in a sort of meditaion.
Here’s an example from a passage I wrote nearly a year ago:
Lovingkindness meditation is a powerful tool for uplifting yourself and bringing more joy into your life. It had a radical impact on me when I practiced it daily. You may google it if you wish.
I forgot to mention this! I find that focusing on the pause between th in-breath and the out-breath is great for stilling the mind.
Another great way is to say to yourself: “I wonder what my next thought is going to be…” When you do this, you put yourself in a state of watchfulness, waiting and watching for that thought to show up.
These days, it’s usually the crown center that I’m drawn to. But doesn’t each chakra have its function and importance? I guess I can see what you’re talking about. After all, isn’t that chakra associated with sight and intuition? So I guess you could see other people’s garbage. But can’t an energy balance in any chakra lead to problems?
Anyway, I was thinking that activity in any chakra for an early meditator is a good sign that there’s potential for development in all areas.