thanks ZIon1 i do reality checks rarely now… but i know i should really do them more often so i will. because i relaly want to have more LD s, so I will keep trying and practicing until i finally get it! thanks again.
C_mon:
The best way to build up motivation is probably just to read about lucid dreaming and visit forums like this one.
Also, I am not a regular around here so if anybody wants to address me in particular your best bet is to send a private message. I check my email daily and these forums semi-monthly, you see. 
en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Lucid_Drea … Techniques
They have pretty much the same thing I wrote in the form of a graph. Much easier to read.
That CAT method they mention looks interesting, but a regular sleep schedule is impossible for me. I prefer WBTB+MILD/WILD/both.
I’ve had so much on my mind this semester that dreams, let alone lucid dreaming, can’t even be found at the bottom of my priority list. Even sleep is way down there. Maybe during the holiday break I’ll have a couple. Maybe I will even try for one tonight.
While I’m proud you say that (most of that bit being written by me) I have to admit your technique choosing thing has more information. 
After 5 years of LD practice I must say I sweep between very low and very high motivation, and it can take a long time to build up the motivation. I’m building up again now. I don’t fall asleep fast but WBTB is still my favourite method - it requires me to go to bed early though, and that’s where motivation comes in. But it’s so effective for me I don’t really care if I need 30 minutes or even an hour falling asleep after WBTB.
Anyway, this is a great tutorial - it cannot take account for all the individual variations - no tutorial will do that - but at least it gives suggestions for people who have low motivation or slowly fall asleep.
im motivated when im sleepy cuz i know when i wake up ill still be tired so i do WBTB those nights mostly…
Very handy guide indeed. Good job! 
nice. thanks, i just started with LD and i needed this. first i gotta work up the dream recall.
one question: how fast would you say is fast was when falling asleep…i need like 15-25 minutes i think. is that fast or slow?
For me it can take anywhere from 5 minutes to 1.5 hours to fall asleep. But usually about 30 minutes or so. And I know that if I fall asleep within 5 minutes then I need to sleep more because then I haven’t been getting enough sleep the past few nights. And if it takes more than 1 hour I know I’ve been sleeping too much 
thanks for your reply JaRoD, but what i wanted to know is who whould u call a fast-sleeper.
is like 25minutes fast?
that’s for the “Fall asleep fast. Highly motivated” text, would i fit in it?
I’d say fast is under 10 minutes, 10-30 or so is average (in my experience that is).
ok…then i probably would be the slow-sleeper
This guide should be added to the library section.
Hmm, is Treader still around? Last post about 2/3 weeks ago. Maybe Q could send him an email or something?
Still here, I’m just not much of a chatter. It might take a me a few weeks… a month… to respond to a post. I’m a little better when it comes to checking my email, though.
I even can be reached by AIM/ Yahoo Instant messanger (I use trillian), but I never seem to remember to turn it on when I access the Internet.
helpful guide it says I should try MILD so I’ll try tonight
EDIT
my memory sucks so i’ll just go WILD
What is classified as taking a long time to fall asleep?
10 hours…
no kidding, I would say over 30 mins to 1 hour is pretty long…
Ok thanks. I guess I am a fast sleeper as it usually seems to take about 15-20 minutes. At least I think it is that fast…
sigh
I’ve been trying to LD for the past couple of nights, but it’s really hard…
I am quite motivated when I’m awake, and I always write in my DJ quite gladly, but when I’m about to sleep it’s SO hard to focus on any of the techniques… I just drift off to sleep without even realising! 
lucid dreaming, kicks ass, io have had like 7 now, have to up date my siganture…
the techniques really helped me out… really good…