how to extend the lucid dream ?

[staserman]

i had few lucid dreams but only the first 1 was long enough to enjoy after this i had few short LDs , when i realize i am dreaming i dont have much time to enjoy it and i got another problem that is when i LD i cant contol my surroundings i just try to do something before it ends so i dont have much time even to try XD

and another question : when do we dream ? after 5 or 6 hours sleeping ? cuz after a hour and a half i had once a LD …
and if we dream after about 5 hours how can the techniqes of keeping the mind awake work ? the mind cant be awake for 5 hours , i think …

thanks for answering this

[Duck]

Rem thing : (not me, but good explained):

About REM and deep sleep. You sleep in cycles of about 90 mins.
The first cycle is almost all deep sleep, with a little REM at the end.
The last cycle is almost all REM with a little deep sleep at the beginning.
That means a normal night with 7.5 hours of sleep could look like this:
80min deep sleep, 10 min REM sleep,
70min deep sleep, 20 min REM,
60 min deep, 30 min REM,
40 min deep, 50 min REM,
30 min deep, 60 min REM.
This differs from person to person, and from night to night.
If you are very tired, you may have more deep sleep, and less REM.
If you take sleeping meds. you may have little or no REM, that depends on the type of medication.
After a period of little or no REM sleep, you can have a REM rebound with lots of REM sleep.
The dreams that happen early in the night tend to be vague and recall tends to be poor.
Most people who sleep through the night only remember dreams from the last REM cycle.
That all means that your idea could work very well.
You might wake up a few times without remembering any dreams when you wake up during a deep sleep cycle,
but you should wake up during REM often in the last hours of sleep.
NOTE: Some people do dream during deep sleep, and some of them also say that they have good recall, and vivid dreams.
There are people who say that they dream all night, and are lucid whenever they dream.
This is not the norm. ( Some people can run a mile in less then four mins. )

And extending Ld thing:

Don’t expect it to end shortly, don’t be it hurry, it really kills the dream. Tell yourself that you hve plenty of time. If you expect to wake up - you will wake up soon. To extend dream you can rub your hands, spin yourself, look for a details in dream. You are getting more sensation of dream, which keeps you sleeping, I guess. It’s a good way to stay in dream.

[staserman]

thanks for the explainning , i will try what you said but i am not thinking completely rationally during a LD