Insomnia - Can't sleep!

#172

Hmm…I only just found this topic. Too bad i could have used it a long time ago.

Well, i get cases of Insomnia every couple of months. I went to Syria on December 21st, and since then i haven’t slept properly once. During my vacation, i was never able to sleep in one city. When i travelled to another city in Syria, i slept beautifully. When i went back i slept horribly. I thought this phase would end when i would go back to Qatar(where i live) but it didn’t.

I finished my exams, and my work and i still can’t sleep. This is what happens:

I go to bed tired and sometimes, not tired. I read for a bit, and go to sleep. The whole night, i never enter REM for sometime. I am almost always at the HI/HH phase. I don’t want to try WILD at that time, because once i fail at WILD there is no chance i will sleep at all. Another annoying thing, is that i always end up waking up at 4.00 am and 5 am. Always. I often need to go to the toilet during that time.

I don’t know what to do, Darn it! My Insomnia during Weekends is even worse - but i’ll discuss that once i get some good information on how to get a good nights sleep, hopefully. You don’t know how much i would appreciate tips, and help on what to do. Thanks in advance to those who reply.

#173

The title says it all…
Since I’ve started telling myself “I will remember my dreams in the morning!” and having a dream diary I found myself in 2 problems:

  1. I wake up on 5:00 and can’t fall asleep again.
  2. My recall is getting worse and worse… I mean, in the first 2-3 days I remembered my dreams really well and i got up on 6:30 am (good for me), but then the dream recall got worse and worse and I started to get up on 5 am…
    Please help me with my problems, I will greatly appreciate it.

Aviran

#174

how does that have to do with Insomnia? You posted in the wrong topic.

#175

I know - I posted it in “Helpdesk” but someone suggested to move it and I confirmed, and I think it was the right choice…

#176

Wissam, did you read the post in full before replying
my first impulse was to put it in the remembering dreams topic…
but the main problem is waking up too early and not being able to go back to sleep again! and this is classed as insomnia if it results in not getting enough sleep.

#177

People in another forum told me to see an adventure movie or to read a book before go to sleep, and I have, and I got to bed later then usual, and I woke up at 6:40 am! I didn’t told to myself “I will remember dreams and the morning” a lot of times, only once - and when I woke up this morning I felt good(even I didn’t sleep enough, but it was better then the past few days, and I hope it will get better) and I think I had an interesting dream, even I don’t remember it all… I just remember I ripped something.

#178

Sorry guys…I was in a bad mood as i was hoping someone replied to my insomnia problem. I guess it does count as insomnia.

#179

I discovered that I got up later because i got to bed later… :sad: 1 day later I got to bed and thought I’ll wake up at 6:40 again, but I woke up at 5:00… And I solved the dream recall problem… The early waking up makes my recall suckish…
The recall isn’t suck for real - I remember my last dream when I wake up, but because it is so early I don’t think about writing it, but about going back to sleep, and then I forget my dream… Please help me as soon as possible!
One more thing, about the insomnia of the guy who posted the message - try see a movie or something like that before you go to sleep - watch the movie while lying on your bed - I always fall asleep when I do that. If you can’t watch a movie from your bed, just try to let your minds “flow”, and if that doesn’t work too, you can always use pills…

#180

/me reads through topic…
imm0rtal
just relax in bed
go to bed tired
watch TV or read in bed to relax

Sleepyhead
more physical exercise in the day can help

Learjet
don’t nap in the day to catch up

#sixFirst I think it’s good to write all about what went on during the day, because most likely those recent day thoughts are what’ll keep you up. Youv’e got to get it out of you some way, and just thinking about it is the root to insomnia.

clarkkent
avoid caffeine

Ev
try melatonin

SeanIRL
Apparantly, it’s best to sleep with your head pointing NORTH because of the Earth’s magnetic field

ihatejacknjills
Meditation

Nathan Roy
Try warm milk with a little bit of vanilla and sugar in it.
try counting: 1, im dreaming, 2, im dreaming, etc. Sorta like sheep but Dreams instead. :tongue:

milod789
do not exercise before bed
only use your bedroon for sleeping
Don’t watch the clock when you are trying to sleep.

R3TRO
61 point relaxation method <-- link

Dark Sider
keep healthy sleep habits: only use the bed for sleep, and always go to bed at the same time, and always get up at the same time, even on weekends.

FireHorse
Lay still, because just by laying quietly and thinking pleasant thoughts you are resting your body and your mind.
While not quite as refreshing as sleep, it is quite enough to keep you going and more importantly it takes the pressure off of trying to go to sleep. Laying still and not fretting, try it.

Abyss
Lay down in bed early, and practice using a WILD method. I find a lot of hidden fatigue will come up

Iluminada
I have cornflakes w/ warm milk and some sugar (splenda) but sugar is better. or a cup of chamomille tea w/ honey.

Basilus West
Here you can find a general article about insomnia:
Treatment Methods for Insomnia: Critical Evaluation
In herbal treatments or tea, chamomile, valerian and passion flower are said to be sedative.

mystic
Drink some good hot milk before going to bed :smile: It must be hot because cold milk doesn’t work (because in hot milk there’s far more tryptophan, a precursor to some important brain chemicals involved with sleep).

pasQuale
i found this article with helpful tips. Hope it is of help to anyone.
selfgrowth.com/articles/Turo-Shields8.html

Spreaderoffear
How about using Brainwave generator or another Binaural beat program or Cd.Walmart sells a Cd called “Sleep” that works

siiw
I have found out that there is little use in trying hard to fall asleep. What works best for me, is to make the time in bed less boring by for example imagining interesting scenes. They have to be far from real life, to not start distracting trains of thought. More often than not, I fall asleep in the middle of that.
Something else that works for me is to pay attention to the feeling of lying in bed, how comfortable it is, and how hard it would be if i had to get up now.

Kindreamings
Try reading something that is really boring to you at the time.

finally as a last resort there is always mild sleeping tablets
I will split this topic now. :thumbs:

Dreamless for a long time need help with dream recall..
sleep techniques
Issues withReality Checks not working and cant recall dreams
#181

At times it can also be helpful to try not to think about anything, or to imagine something. It really depends on the insomniac. The warm milk trick mentioned above does wonders :smile: .

#182

i had problems with sleeping. but i just found this awesome awesome program that changes brainwaves. it helps with studying and sleeping. i used to lie awake for HOURS, after using this program, it takes 15-30 MINUTES TOPS!

https://www.bwgen.com/

just download it for free on the site! good luck!

oh and choose the sleeping aid option on the program!

#183

yes bwgen works wonders.
I have this problem where if my throat is a little scratchy I can’t fall asleep. I have this urge to swallow giving my throat temperary relief. I think this is pretty much in my head. Any tips other than pasing out using nyquil?

#184

it usually takes me about 2 hours to get to sleep, depending on how tired i am
im going to try the thing from bwgen tonight and see if it works :grin:

#185

So last night i took two tablets of melatonin

and then it took me 3 hours to fall asleep with no recall

now, this seems contradictory to what a sleep aid should in fact do, which is… help you sleep.

perhaps it’s because my sleep cycle is shot to hell?

At any rate, i would appreciate some help getting to sleep at night.

About the BWgen: do you need to be in bed while listening to it? because that isn’t an option for me.

#186

It surprises me how many people here have insomnia or just don’t sleep that well. Is is there a relation between interest in dreaming and bad sleep? Anyway, this also applies to me a bit. I have troubles sleeping when I go to bed early, like when I have school next day, because I only fall in sleep fast when I go to bed late. Sometimes I even get a little depressive when I go to bed early.

#187

moved from adventures forum to the big insomnia topic :moogle:

:help: i can’t usually go to sleep until around 2:30 its a reverse insomnia of a kind i guess anyways can someone give me a tip on how to do LD?

#188

Hmm…if you have an insomnia problem that bad, I would think your first priority is to see a doctor or specialist of some kind. Yeah, if you can’t go to sleep until 2:30 AM, that’s going to be a major problem in learning to LD properly. If I were you, I would see a doctor before even thinking about attempting to LD. Once you have overcome that particular obstacle, then you can think about LDing, but for now, I would strongly advise that you get the insomnia situation under control. I am not pretending to be a doctor, I’m simply telling you what I would do in your situation.

#189

Sunolet, you will find lots of advice about your sleeping problem here :thumbs:
BTW if you feel rested when you wake up the next day, this late time wouldn’t be a problem. :smile:
Otherwise, relaxation or meditation will help a lot. Or if your body clock needs adjusting short term use of melatonin would help (trouble is I don’t think this is freely available in all countries).
For LDing advice just read the main site and there is already a lot of advice about starting to LD in the quest forum. (It’s a good idea to read the choosing your technique topic in the knowledge base to discover which method may work the best for you :happy: )

#190

It’s not just dreamers – it’s a problem with how we run our society.

As for how to deal with it, I’ve found that breathing in and out quickly through my nose (hyperventilating) really helps me to fall asleep. I do 50 breaths, and I’m usually out in 1-2 minutes. Don’t do more than 100 breaths, or you’ll be asking for trouble… :eek: If you have insomnia, try it!

#191

Thanks for the intell about insomnia. :content:

And about hyperventilation, that is a nice idea! I’ll trie it. I do not think I have insomnia, but I have problems falling asleep sometimes. Maybe I do have this, I won’t know. Anyway, I’ll trie it! :happy: