My question is that, whether its possible to enter other persons dream lucidly when they are also in R.E.M stage? I think it will be useful for conveying our thoughts and feelings to the other person…
For ex: suppose i am angry with this girl and i realize my mistake but my ego is preventing me from asking sorry to her in the waking reality…Can i apologize to her in the dream state? How far it will be effective? I know one thing, for sure, that i cannot Influence other person…
Also can i build a particular dream and incubate it to her dream so that she actually perceives it to be her own dream?
I’ve heard a bit about shared dreaming (i’m sure there’s some other posts about it somewhere around here) but i don’t know if i believe it too much. I believe dreaming occurs in one’s mind solely.
Also dreams are always interpreted by the dreamer, so even if you could incept your ex’s dreams or whatever, what’s to say she might not interpret it a completely different way than you intended? Or that her recall is good enough to even remember it when she woke up?
My humble solution: your best way into her dreams is by apologizing to her yourself in real life, and showing her that you won’t let your pride get in the way of how you truly feel.
Hey thanks dude…I value ur opinion on this…
But as far as my research in LDing goes, i have read a few books on Lding that its quite possible to do dream telepathy…Not only u can transfer thoughts but also transfer emotions…In fact, even in waking reality we do it most of the time unconsciously…
Anyway it was just an example and i think its better not to have ego in place of ur relationships
Nobody is gonna be able to give you a certain answer on this. There’s much speculation going on about this, but it’s definitely not scientifically proven. I highly doubt the possibility of this, too.
My advice would be to simply apologize in your real life… after all that’s where you spend most of your time. And if you build up some courage to do it there, you can be certain that it actually reached her.
I think it’s possible to have a SD. It might be a bit difficult to just barge into someone’s dream, but I think if two people plan to do it (and both already know how to induce LD’s easily). Not to spam (since I’m pretty sure I’ve mentioned this a number of times already), but I’ve had a shared ND before when I was younger and DR was a natural thing. Remembering that one day was what led me to look into LD’ing in the first place.
It may not be scientifically proven, that’s true; but hey, neither was lucid dreaming not so long ago.
In my opinion, shared dreams are not possible. My theory about how shared dreams happens is this:
Shared dreams happen when two people had dreamt about something, what they both experienced in real life. Since they have experienced the same event, they had both dreamed of it. When they recall those dreams, they will find that they are identical, since both people experienced the even. An example:
Two friends go to an amusement park. They go to a rollercoaster ride together. After that, they go home and fall asleep. Since they have recently been to an amusing event, they dream about it. Both of them dream about the rollercoaster ride they’ve been in, and an illusion, that they are in the same dream is created.
The illiusion of shared dreams happen, when two people mutually recall a dream they’ve had this morning, creating a false memory. An example:
Two friends sit at a table for a breakfast. One of them starts telling what he had dreamt of that night. The other friend, had a less vivid dream, and doesn’t remember it that clearly. Our brain has a function of “filling in the gaps”, based on another person’s information. Therefore, when the other friend hears about the dream, he unconciously adapts the story to himself, creating a false memory. Therefore, the illusion of a shared dream is created.
It should be noted that people’s minds don’t connect in any way. Our brains do not support any Internet/LAN between our minds. The theory of an “Universal mind” seems like an absurd for me. Since people can’t be connected in any way, the dreams one person has will always be independent from other people. It’s simply biologically, scientifically impossible to have a shared dream, since we don’t have such a device in our brains, which would allow that. Scientists have already analysed the brain troughoutly, and if such device had existed, everyone would be aware of it.
I believe that shared dreaming is possible I also believe nothing is impossible. I believe we are limited by our own closed minds. If you can open your mind to possibilities the magic begins. To a scientific mind belief is difficult without proof. I know that my awareness can be much larger then just from one perspective (my own) and can be perceived from many perspectives (putting my consciousness into others and seeing the situation from that perspective). A shared dream is not necessarily seeing the exact same thing someone else saw while in the dream state or while asleep at the same time. In dreamtime time does not exist (clocks are not stable in the dream state). Just as the many other “laws” of waking life such as breathing, while holding your nose while dreaming you can still breath. So i believe that memory is not the same in waking reality as it is in dream reality. I believe that you can connect with who ever and what ever you choose to as long as you believe it possible.
Lucky1990 - I believe that you have already set the intention to make amends with this person through writing this post. I also believe that if you continue to wish her well and keep her in your mind with positive thoughts then the opportunity to heal wether in waking or sleeping reality with present itself.
Much Love and Luck
I truly believe it is possible to do such of this if you are interested I am part of the chroniclers or something like that and were all about shared dreams… but I do believe it is possible for me I can enter my own creations(CALD) dreamscape by thinking about who they are and walking through a mirror (the same way I create my own dreamscape) and I believe if I think about somebody in their dream state I can find them and intercept them in their own dream. I have not been able to try due to horrable dream recall lately. Best of luck to you
Dear Lidybug,
Thanks much for ur love and appreciation. What prompted me to put this post is the technique of communicating to other minds in alpha state. The technique which i learnt in my meditation class last year. If ‘Telepathy’ is possible in Waking Reality then image transfer a.k.a shared dreams is very much possible in Dream state for the dream state is much powerful…
You may like to check this link. lucidcrossroads.co.uk/shared.htm
Whether there actually is a dream-sharing ability or not, I think this effect accounts for the vast majority of purported shared dreams. People’s grasp of dreams is pretty tenuous as is, perhaps among adepts this would be a little more persuasive.
I just listened to the squirrel and the sun dream! It was exactly what I experienced! Thank you for sharing. This is the link: youtube.com/user/ReeceJones8 … hEthO3XrT8
Namaste
Though the concept of shared dreaming sounds skeptical, people have claimed to have them. I don’t believe two people can have completely identical encounters with each other without it being a true shared dream, considering our imagination is so diverse.
Hi Paulius, I do appreciate that you state your post as an opinion and i do apprecitate your skeptical nature. The only thing I would say is that when one is not open to all possibilities then one cannot ever get to the truth.
If you would have asked me this question 6 months ago, I would have said ‘No’.
It’s a half year ago when I read an article on the link between reality and dreams. Of course, I’m talking about precognitive lucid dream, as you may guess. I’m skeptical at the moment, as it has been proven to practically be possible, but theoretically it’s impossible - and you know the famous property of maths: If you draw the graphic of a function, that’s not enough - you have to do the proper calculation to be sure you are right.
The same applies here, as you can see. I still don’t believe in SD’s though, but that article totally blew my mind on PLD’s, as I call them (Precognitive Lucid Dream)…
[center](A little quote from the article I was talking about.)[/center] “The lucid dream actualized into a physical event. When the dream came true down to the finest detail, I felt the same thoughts, the same emotions and the same events unfolding as they did in the lucid dream. When the lucid dream time and space synchronized with the waking moments, it brought about an aura of Déjà vu unlike anything I had ever experienced. This merging of the duality of dreams and reality clearly demonstrated to me that dreams and reality share a very intimate relationship with each other and are somehow interconnected. Moreover, waking reality itself may stem from the process of dreaming.”- Robert Waggoner
Ok,… You cant get in her dreams!
Second,… I BELIVE you can incubate even without this realise, but you would have to train Conversational Hypnosis e NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming) for this!
Depends when would this person have this dream,… In which REM Stage would she have. AND even if this person Remember this Dream, do you really think that she would believes that you create the Dream World?