Is it possible to see the future in dreams?

Once again I had a future dream.

I had a dream I had pancackes for breakfast and when I woke up today my mom had a plate of pancakes on the table JUST for me.

If I haven’t supported enough proof then I dont know how to prove myself anymore…

Maybe you felt the smell of pancakes while sleeping and that made you have a dream about eating pancakes?

No my door is closed and my kitchen is on the other side (and floor) of my house.

Maybe its because I had pancaked christmas morning and I was having a flash back.

But I’m convinced I saw the future.

It’s more complicated than that.

That’s the reason most people don’t understand these kind of things.

You are not limited by neither time nor space.

The music you hear is a vibration, energy.
Just like that, light, is also “energy”, vibrating a lot faster than the sounds.
The things you touch, quite surprisingly, are also vibrations.
In fact, the molecules of your hand never touch the molecules of what you touch.
They are zapped away from each other and all you’re left with is a vibration, as always, which is translated to touch.

You are energy, all that is, is energy.

Just a point on the energy spectrum.

As Einstein said, “Reality is an illusion, albeit a persistent one.”

Your 5 sensors take the information around them and translate them into “touch”, “sight” etc… and from that, you build this experience. For you see, there is no out there.
The reality you are experiencing is inside your brain.

A show :content:

With that being said,

Think of yourself as consciousness, interconnected, entangled with the entire universe.

Dreams are just a name of a certain type of experience, just like the physical waking consciousness , just like any other experience. They are all fundamentally the same.

Vibrations… Just like everything else, only at much higher frequencies.

It’s easier for most people to tune into other signals in that state, because all 5 sensors are turned off. You went into the dream and experienced something. It could be many things, there are endless frequencies.

The feeling that it will happen might have been caused by various elements.
one is that it may have already happened…

It’s possible that you did in fact see the future and you were still “wrong”.

I’d explain a little about that later, I must go ^^

Hope this helps
Sweet dreams
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That thing of the vibrations is called the uncertainty principle, and most of physicians believe in it (eat THAT Poe’s Law defender! We have facts to defend our theory!)
And a theory COULD be built in some of these facts. I propose we do write this theory, to shut up those like joe_042293!

I agree.

Dreams are strange and If we can have shared dreams and somehow connect minds, then why is it so IMPOSSIBLE to see the future. Maybe not in the waking life but in a dream anything is possible.

I hope some of you stand corrected. cough joe_042293

In order to provide evidence, you must set up your experiment in a controlled environment, where you cancel out all possible external factors. Considering a) eating pancakes for breakfast is hardly uncommon enough to warrant an amazing future prediction, b) you had pancakes a week ago, c) the smell of the pancakes certainly will make it to your room unless your room is vacuum sealed and d) any sound whatsoever that has anything to do with pancakes such as your mother talking about it would cause your subconscious to react, your evidence is most definitely not found in a controlled environment.

Why don’t I think someone can tell the future? Because it is strictly forbidden by relativity. Along with free energy, these two things are pretty much the only major ‘science fiction’ type things that are explicitly deemed impossible by our theories. (and just in case - the word ‘theory’ in science means something much different than the term ‘theory’ in casual language - people tend to get mixed up that the label ‘theory’ on something scientific means that it is just a hypothetical pondering. This is not true.)

Also just like UFOs, there has never been any proper evidence. People come up with their stories just like people have their fuzzy saucer pictures, but why has noone ever set up a controllable experiment or gathered irrefutable evidence of these things? I can say for certain that scientists would love it if telling the future was possible. They love these kind of things, these weird things - making astounding, life-changing discoveries is what they live for. Teleportation and invisibility are two clear examples that have been shown possible in recent times. There’s no closed-mindedness going on here at all. If there was peer-reviewed evidence, it would be eaten up in an instant.

So where is this controlled, repeatable and above all peer-reviewed evidence?

Way to ruin our fun binny

But binny, if we have to do that kind of experience, to prove foreseeing the future is possible, why not doing it. If not exactly like that, something near at least!
I would say to ask someone to move this to the lab…? But maybe I’m just exaggerating in this quest for proof…

If the Japanese could record our dreams and put them in an animation I’m sure the human mind could see the future.

binny, do you have any PROOF that humans are unable to see the future?
You continue to say we have no proof, but where is yours?

My best friend actually saw exactly how our school’s picture day would go… he predicted every event in the day! :eek:

That was also the day when LDing first became heard of in my class.

Yeah there’s a lot of things made possible in LDing, but our point is that why couldn’t it follow through IRL.

Yeah there’s a lot of things made possible in LDing, but our point is that why couldn’t it follow through IRL.

I could say you can’t prove a negative, but that would be a bit silly. Proving that something doesn’t exist, or some other sort of negative is exceptionally difficult - especially if the person you are debating with is an agnostic, at which point you might as well just say ‘you can’t prove a negative’ - but proving a positive takes one small bit of evidence and that’s it.

But you musn’t have read my post properly anyway - I mentioned that precognition is utterly forbidden in physics. I won’t explain it here, but I’m pretty sure there’s an explantion in ‘Physics of the Impossible’ by Michio Kaku, where he splits up ‘impossible’ things into three categories - where things such as invisibility, teleportation, force fileds etc. are all ‘impossible’ sounding things but are really actually possible. The only two things he says are ultimately forbidden by physics is perpetual motion/free energy, and precognition.

There is a much better explantion in the book ‘Fabric of the Cosmos’ by Brian Greene too.

I already read that book. But do you recall invisibly being “supremely impossible” “unimaginable”…

No, I don’t recall that. There was no law that explicity forbade it. This gets back to ‘proving a negative’ in a way, and using invisibility versus precognition is a very good example:

Invisbility had lack of proof that it was possible.

Precognition has proof that it is impossible.

See the difference? The first has the lack of proof of possibility, which does NOT rule out that chance that there may one day be some new piece of proof that proves its possibility. The second on the other hand has proof of impossibility, in which case DOES rule out later chance that some day proof may come to prove its possibility - it’s already proved impossible.

then I believe there is no proof to that time travel is possible. Because that would imply that some people would travel to the future, learn things, get back to the present… and then they would have precognition…so, not trying to go against your solid facts, just trying to get another way to hold this topic on…

I have a sneaky little feeling that travelling through time and going back does not count as true precognition…it’s exactly the same as getting in a faster car to see what’s ahead, then going back to the guys in the slower car and telling them what you saw. Considering space and time are intertwined, these two things are pretty much exactly the same.

Precognition, however, would be predicting what the object is ahead without actually travelling to the object.

And I can promise you, your dreams, nor any sort of person claiming to have psychic powers allow you to go forward and then back in time - because time travelling requires insane amounts of energy and probably speed. And therefore there is still no way the future can be foretold.

Just as an aside, once again time travel has no proof of impossibility - only absense of proof of possibility. Puts it in the same category as invisbility and the opposite category to precognition. You say we have no proof of time travel - this is obviously true. But we might later on. We simply can’t with precognition however, because our laws strictly forbid that happening.

There are several ways proposed that time travel could resolve all of its paradoxes (granfather, et al):

First, it is possible that you could go back in time and yet in no way have any ability to change the events. Imagine a movie, where you travelling back in time is actually part of the movie. You of course cannot change what the movie already says, and so could not go back and tell everybody what happened. This, of course would imply you have no free will, and in fact relativity tells us that we do have no free will. Unless this second situation is realised:

The other possibility is that the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics is true, and parallel universes exist. This would mean that every single possible choice that someone or something could have made has its own universe - if you could either go left or right, there would be two universes and your own free will chooses which of these universes your consciousness resides in (consciousness is a very tricky issue in the quantum world, that’s for sure). If you for intance are in Universe A, and travel to the future in Universe A, you might see someone falling off a cliff. However, when you travel back in time, you will split into a different universe, say Universe B, in which your prediction no longer applies and so your effort was useless.

So the ways that time travel could be possible offers no ways for true precognition to be possible, and offers no ways for ‘fake precognition’ to be even remotely possible with our current energy levels. Some day in the future we may be able to time travel, and we may see future events by going there, but this will reside within the laws of one of the scenarios given (most likely), does not represent precognition in the true sense of the word and would require energy that could blow up the solar system.

Of course, time travel will likely turn out to be impossible. We just don’t know yet.

Yes I dont remember my “future” dreams but I am sure I was dreaming about it.

You are most certain, and give a lot of very solid proof of your believe. So I will have to resign to the fact that we won’t be able to use precognition. But what do you consider the laws of Universe? Would they be different for other intelligent beings across the universe, or would be the same to all?