I have just had a weird experience and I want to know if this is a lucid experience or what is it. Pretty much I closed my eyes and did the vauem in middle of head getting rid of all thought’s thing. Well while doing this I also felt the breathing technique. Well during the whole experience I was hearing my breathing. Pretty much I felt like I wasn’t completely with myself and sort of empty. Yet I was alive and just couldn’t move. I would just think about my legs and try to move my right one granit, I was laying down where this is the top leg but couldn’t. After this happened I noticed ‘drool’ from my mouth so I tryed to move it. At first that wouldn’t move so I tryed harder. At some point I was able to move my mouth it felt like that was a 5 min attempt. I was starting to wonder if this was lucidity so I wanted to ask this forum. Pretty much I decided that I would write this post hoping that I would remember it. So I wanted to wake up then. That is if I was a sleep. So when I tryed I would attempt to open my eyes. This wouldn’t work and I would try harder and harder. I finally got them open in what felt like 10 min. After doing so everything was fuzzy so I thought I would do some DR and tryed to put my hand through my other one and checked for 6 fingers. I also looked at the clock to see if it looked weird. Then I did the reading then leaving then reading attempt. After this was over and I was convinced I was awake I did some checks. The first was to see if I was really drooling. This resulted in a no because my mouth was A. Dry and B. The pillow was dry also.
I would like to imply that this started about 2 min from laying down and was only a 5 min period but felt like 15 to 20 min.
Please comment so I can know if this is my first experience or if I was just imagining things and didn’t even get to sleep.
Ok, mostly what you’ve experienced was sleep paralysis, or short term SP!
What happened to you is actually a job of SP. If you would have gone a step further you would end up in a dream and you couldn’t move at all because if you could you would act out of your dreams and that would cause sleep waking and other things…
Good thing is that you didn’t panicked while you was in SP because most people do so taking it easy and trying to move if you need/want to is good thing. The drool you felt was probably a hallucination due to SP which are normal. There are also hallucinations of sound, images and other feelings and sensations!
So you weren’t in a dream so you weren’t lucid in a dream but you were lucid in SP which is also a big step because if you fall asleep “normally” every night you would loose conscious before even entering SP.
Next thing you should do is trying that again and not trying to “break” SP. Hallucinations might get stronger but try to go with the flow, don’t fight against it and see what happens and keep in mind that’s all in your head and it can’t hurt you!
So it is pretty much me almost at the stage of sleeping but still being highly aware of it? Also when you say 'If you would have gone a step further you would end up in a dream and you couldn’t move at all because if you could you would act out of your dreams and that would cause sleep waking and other things… ’ does that mean that I would be paralyzed in the dream?
If I am right to sum it up what I was, was an awareness that I was falling asleep and if I let it go farther it could become a lucid dream.
I am also wondering with how there are NREM stages does this mean that if I am aware that I am falling asleep will there be an hour difference from when I actually can even know I am asleep?
Pretty much I am asking that If I know I am falling asleep then will I know right when I get to sleep (light sleep) will I be able to know I am asleep or will I have to be asleep for a long time b4 I can start dreaming and get into the lucidity of the dream.
The thing is that NREM stages get shorter with more time you sleep peer night and REM stages get longer. It takes around 90 - 120 minutes to enter first REM sleep.
I’m don’t know much about sleep stages to give any particular advice but you can search forum for more answers because there were some topics about that.
*dB_FTS runes quickly to learn more about sleep stages
Ok, after some light reading that’s what I learned: Every night we go through sleep cycle which is split up into NREM and REM cycle. As with more sleep REM gets longer NREM get shorter and that’s happening in 4 to 5 cycles of 90 - 120 minutes peer night. - this time actually depends on how much we sleep.
So each sleep cycle last around 90 - 120 minutes. Each cycle have NREM cycle and REM cycle. So you need 90 - 120 minutes to get into first REM cycle which lasts only around 10 minutes. After that you are again going into NREM cycle but this time your REM will last longer[I don’t know how much longer ] and so on. REM cycle in last 2 sleep cycles can be long almost an hour!
The trick is to calculate how much you sleep peer night and made a graph and divided in into stages and time. And with that graph we should know when our next REM cycle should be and then we can awake as much minutes before this next REM cycle as much we want to stay awake for WBTB technique! BRILLIANT!