In order to promote LD (and my LD website:-) in my coutry, I’m about to provide some info on LD to a large institute for disabled. Well, I’ll send them just a few links, nothing more… but I think they are a perfect “target group” and their physical limits can “force” (motivate) them to become soon the best dreamers in the world.
What’s your opinion about it? I think that LD can be really like a heaven for such people. I think I even read someting about it at the Lucidity Institute. But are there any specifisc for them or so? Have anybody any experince contacting a huge institute which unites, let’s say a few hundreds (maybe thousands) of disabled and it is strictly materialisticly orientated?
hmm, nice idea… Well ofcourse it depends what type of disabled ppl are they… If they dont have any problems with their brain it would be cool to them to discover new LD world.
but, errm, how do you think, if, lets say guy who couldnt move his legs from since he born, could he walk in the dreams? Like blind man couldnt see in dreams, thats 99%, so how about guy who can’t walk? Will he be able to walk in dreams? :-/
Well I can’t fly since I am born but I can do it very easily in my LD’s. It’s possible I think. There must be some examples out there of people who did this… I would try it anyway if I were a disabled person.
Of course dest that would be possible because he also can move his arms in real life so he has some example, some connection already.
I think of course its not black and white view like a disabled could do all automatically. I dont think its like that, but he/she would be able to go beyond normal experience borders thats for sure!
The deaf people I know can hear in dreams, and even more bizzare is a deaf family member of mine can speak perfect speech while dreaming.
I think it’s a great benefit to be able to consciously break these restrictions of reality with lucid dreaming, and I hope it’s overall comforting for everyone.
thanks r3m0t, I found one similiar. I’ll ask the guy how he has succeded. But there’s nothing more - I’m looking just for word “disabled” - is there any English synonym they could use?
Another problem is that there’s no book about LD in Czech… so, there’s even less knowledge about it than in English speaking world. BTW, how is it in similar, small countries (Belgium, Norway, Holland, Danmark, Sweeden…)? Has anything been translated?
Nevertheless, I’ll toy with the letter for the institute and hope that the information comes through “the gate keeper”
you can check this thread “Translating the Lucid Crossroads”
There is an attempt to provide lucid dreaming information in as many languages as possible.
Seems like you are doing a great favor for the Czech speakers.
There used to be a website specifically for people with spinal cord injuries but its gone now (btw r3m0t the link on wki books doesn’t work as a result).
I looked into making the Lucid Crossroads a freindly site for those with a physical/mental imparement a while ago. Suprisingly the UK is the one of the leading countries in its undersatnding and implementation of disabled rights. Which is why we do so well in the para olympics
Your website should be styled specially in order that at the very least specific pages relating to disabilities and LD’s can be accessed by a wide range of people with a range of inpairments.
The Czech government might have sites on this issue, if not I’ll add the UK ones. Most important issues I would say would be type face size and labeling up all images effectively.
I enjoyed visiting your site. It’s unlike to those typical LD homepages, where you can read basically the same stuff as from most of LD homepages.
As LD is IMO VERY helpful experience for “healthy” people, if you use them for improving your RL, etc, then how much more it is beneficial and great for disabled people
I live in Estonia, and here also we dont have any book in Estonian about LDing. I have seen one Estonian site where few chapters from EWLD were translated, but the owner has not updated the site for few years already
I’m unsure do i have enough time to translate Lucid Crossroads into Estonian, but maybe i will take a shot one day.
Um, I don’t want to sound like a party pooper, or even a worry wart. But, LD’s can be extremely exiteing, and envoke the greatest of pleasures and passions in a person. If people who are disabled or, if some one just doesn’t like the life they are given, would choose to try to LD all day and try to live in a perpetual dream state. This is something more powerful than drugs, do some of you think it could become addicting for some of these people?
LDs can be better than reality for a lot of people, not just disabled people. We cant fly in real life, can we? I have met a couple of lucid dreamers who doesnt like their life at all. Still, it’s almost impossible to sleep for more than 10-12 hours. If what you describe was possible, we would already have seen that a lot, I think.
That is true, but I believe that handycapped people are more susceptable to becoming “addicted” to LD. I could be wrong, I most likely am, it is just a thought I have. Also, when I am sick, I can sleep up to 16 hours, but thats a special case.
I would say depressed people could be addicted to lucid dreaming most easily. When a close family member was depressed many years ago, she spent almost all day sleeping. She wasn’t trying to dream though, she just didnt want to face life. She lost all of her lucid dreaming ability with the depression. Some people gets addicted easily…to anything. At least its impossible to overdose on dreaming.
Well, you can be addicted to anything you like… still far better than to be addicted to drugs. The main problem at the LD addiction is to stay at the LD level, even on a master degree level. LD isn’t the goal, but a tool to free yourself. If you stick on it, your decission…
I’m going to withdraw some problematic topics (psychadelics…) from my site temporarily and then I contact the institute. And then we see…
to Pantalimon: thanks for the tips on providing info to the disabled. I thought of making the website accessible for the blind, but I have no clue how to do it. Maybe in future…
The lucidcrossroads is a very good idea, especially the “lite” version; you can make a very nice website for a little time. Everybody who spends hours on desiging his own pages must appreciate it. I found it some time ago and thought of translating it, but I had more or less the same things on my own site. I translated LaBerge’s “A course in Lucid Dreaming” instead. Maybe I’ll make Czech Crossroads during winter, just because I like the pictures:-)
to Cyrus: greetings to Estonia. I was there the last summer. Very nice. I love the lake Pepsi:-) (Peipsijaärvi, Chudskoe ozero). Beautifull.
BTW: Do you know the city of Kunda? kunda.ee/
Kunda means “cunt” in Czech and that’s why all the Czech tourists in Estonia go there to make a snapshot of the label of the city:-) It could a be a good business to sell postcards there:-)
Might be a good idea. Althought your site is great, it might give some wrong impression that drugs might be needed for LDing. I never have touched drugs, and do relatively well in LDing. But as the means for improving your LDs, you can add drugs too maybe.
I know Kunda, but didn’t knew that it means such thing in Czech
I doubt that i have visited Kunda. Actually it was pretty defiled place at the end of Soviet times due to industry (as far as i know). But maybe it can look more healthy today than back then.
I visited Czech (and especially Prague) in the summer of 2002 just 1-2 weeks before those terrible floods started there. I enjoyed your beer what was much cheaper than here, and your beautiful country
(btw r3m0t the link on wki books doesn’t work as a result).
