LD without Dream ??

Hi everybody,

I’m Daniel from Germany, I came to this forum in the hope to improve my LD/OBE/Visual skills.

A little bit about me, I have some experience in the field of obe and ld, I decited to start this path ca. 10 years ago, the main goal was to reach an obe.
As I began, I had some ld’s at night, that was a great experience as I realized that I can think in a Dream but the most exiting moment is to realize that I’m actually sleeping but wow, my mind is wide awake!!
Most ld’s were ending in a strange feeling, like a thrill over the hole body…
A little bit later, I realized that all I need to reach an obe, is to “stand up” right in the moment of this “thrill” and than I’m out of body.

Ok, I would like a little bit more about the ld-like state before I’m falling asleep.
Often, I use a mantra to keep the mind some more time awake, the body is then relaxed but also still awake.
In this state, pictures are flashing up in my mind, if I try to concentrate to one of these pictures than it disappears in the next moment. After some time, I’m able to keep a picture stable and I can “careful” watch it. While I’m watching, the pic is changing to something like a movie. With a lot of precaution I can keep on this scene and look around and sometimes I even can interact like in a ld.

The question for me is how to train to reach this state and become more stable and be able to interact.
After some rechearch in the internet, I found out that there is a technique call “visualisation”.
Has someone experience in this technique and how useful is it?

Best Regards,

atlantex