Longest LD So Far!!!

Last night I had the longest LD that I’ve ever had! It lasted around 20 minutes, which is a HUGE accomplishment for me. During that time, I knew I was dreaming, but I also wasn’t thinking like I normally do. Nevertheless, I was still lucid, and I did learn a few things.

First: Did you know that jumping quickly up and down helps you stay lucid? When I became lucid, the dream started to fade, and I didn’t know what to do. Then I ‘remembered’ (well, not really, but I though I did… it was a ‘dream memory’) that jumping helps. Immediately the dream stablized. It was so cool!

Second: I discovered a way to learn to fly. First, stand on something (it doesn’t matter how tall) and put one hand over your eyes to block your vision. Hold the other arm straight in the air and let yourself fall backwards. (This is done during a LD, of course) Do NOT catch yourself. You should get a stomach-lift feeling. Then, get up. Stand with one arm over your eyes and one arm straight infront of you. Then, dive up and forwards. While doing that, imagine that feeling and imagine the fear that you’re going to land on your back, adn you should find yourself floating upwards! When you’re ready, take your hand off of your eyes and FLY!

Third: I’ve learned to recognize that ‘dream feeling’. Its a feeling I get during all my dreams, and I learned to recognize it. Whenever I feel it, I do a RC. Try this: In your next LD, try to notice the feeling/sensation inside of you that tells you that this is a dream and you are in controll and you can do any crazy thing you want to. After that, do a RC every time you feel that way. :smile:

Wow, that’s great. I don’t even think i’ve had one that lasted that long (In waking life time of course)!

That’s a huge accomplishment for anybody! How vivid was it?

I never tried this to stay lucid, however, I have used to great success the classic “rolling on your back” technique.

Wow, it’s the first time I hear of anything like this. Did you discover this on your own?

Can you try to describe what it feels like? It’s very interesting, if we can all learn to recognize it, it may help a lot of people become lucid.

It was very vivid, and a couple of times I was half scared that I was really awake. But, I wasn’t thinking the way that I normally do. I guess that worked in my favour, though , because if I had been thinking straight, I wouldn’t have discovered so many things. When I learned about how to fly and the jumping technique, it just came to me like a memory, as if I’d known it my whole life. If I’d been thinking straight, I wouldn’t have thought of those things and instead have gone back to my actual memories. I guess that’s just saying that low lucidity dreams actually can be benificial.

I’d love to be able to explain the ‘dream feeling’, but unfortunately it’s one of those things that you’d have to discover for yourself. The best I can describe it as is this: You know when you have those moments where you feel relaxed and maybe even in a daze, but at the same time you feel fresh and calm? You feel part of the world, like you’ve just woken up, tired and lazy, and found yourself basking in memories and old childhood feelings. You are living in a painting… and you are part of it. You are looking at life through a television, but you are in the television at the same time. Everything (your thoughts, your senses, your emotions) is slightly out of focus, but it doesn’t need to be in focus because you are already content with it. That’s sort of what it feels like. And I know it doesn’t really make sense, but you’ll understand once you’ve felt it for yourself.

I first stared to realize it about a week ago, when I started to have many FAs. Eventually, I came to a point where I could notice that surreal feeling (or the feeling of being awake, for that matter). It was really useful, because I could quickly and easily determine whether I was awake or dreaming every morning (although, of course, I still did RCs) But, it was only in my last LD that I considered using it to help induce LDs.

I don’t know if this works, but you can try it if you want to. Every time you do a RC, note how you feel. I mean ‘feel’ as in many things: an emotion, your senses, and your thought clarity. This should teach you the feeling of being awake. Then, whenever you do a RC and become lucid, do the same thing. This should teach you the feeling of dreaming.

Anyways… thats it for now. :smile: Sorry for such a long post.

you brought up some neat techniques that i would have never thought of. the flying one was interesting, although i’ve never had too much of a problem with flying.
I think it’s funny that you posted this by the way, because i also had my longest LD last night. I would estimate it to be about 20 minutes as well. It was so long that i don’t remember how i got lucid, or the first 2-3 minutes of the dream. lol. It was one of those LD’s that lasts so long that after a couple of minutes of playing around, you’re like “well now what?” i wanted to chain into another LD, but i was afraid that i would forget this dream altogether if i had another. I’ve chained about 4 or 5 LDs together before, and i find my recall to diminish greatly with lengthy LDing. Did you recall the beginning of this dream in good detail? or was it a little difficult? and do you havea DJ on LD4all where this dream can be found?

Congrats on the 20 minute LD. That’s quite an accomplishment. :cool:
I know exactly what you mean by the dream feeling. I think you’ve described it remarkably well.

Also, learning how to recognize that feeling is the secret to getting a LD every night. :peek:

Congrats!! I’m yet to get another LD :rofl:

Thank you for that hint. I will look for the feeling tonight.
As for staying lucid I’m gong to try that trick mentioned in one of the the forums about just taking your clothing of once you are lucid,to make you really self-conscious. I can see how that would work to keep you lucid, seeing I would just be mortified in real life

I totally second Wyvern. That was an amazing description of the dream feeling, and you got it completely right, learning to recognize it is the key to getting lucid in every dream.

Also, congrats for the fantastic LD, 20 minutes is really a milestone! :content: And I’m sure you’ll have many other LD’s this long, and even longer. Good luck to you. :smile:

Yeah, I also agree, very good description of the feeling! :tongue: The problem is being aware enough in a ND to actually realize the feeling :bored:

And congrats on the LD!

Lena, real good explanation of everything! =D

The feeling of being in a dream is what makes me lucid and not RC or anything else…
But I do use the WBTB technique and some times WILD, and when I do wake up it’s automatic, don’t need a clock or so, all I need is to want to get an LD and sometime during the night I will open my eyes for a short while and tell myself; “LETS FAKKIN DO THIS!” (not really, but something like that =P)
I’ts really werid, for some reason I can recognize everytime I am in a dream…

Anyhow, in order to not go off topic, Lena have you ever tried to stop slow the time down? And have you ever been lucid through the black lapses of a dream (different stages of the sleep rythm)? :cool:

I believe I managed to “stop” the time once and it felt as if I had time to get old in the dream, but in the end it felt really short (once I woke up), but I had time to do alot of stuffs (in the dream), felt as if I were there for at least 3 days or so… :content:

Haha, nice, only a few of my LD’s have been this long and it is a great accomplishment :cool_laugh:

I tried Jumping Jacks last night when I was lucid, and you are right it does help really well to gain clarity. I also tried the removing your clothes I read about in the “Dream Control Training Course” by FoxyChor, that worked because I was actively focused and doing something, but once I had done that I started becoming unfocused so rubbing my arms helped. Finally I just hollered increase lucidity, and that worked best of all.
I did not remember to look for the gutfeeling you described, even though I am pretty sure I know what you mean, but was not consciously aware off. :meh: Next time! :smile:

For the first question, I’m not quite sure what you’re talking about. If you mean the non-REM stages of sleep, then no.

As for stopping time… I’ve never thought of that. It seems pretty cool. I think I’ll try it. :tongue:

It’s been getting harder to notice the dream feeling when I’m not lucid. I think I’ll have to work on it. Also, I know this is really off topic but something happened this morning and I’m really confused about it. I had this dream where I was flying around and trying to stay away from this evil villain. The villain reached out his hands to choke me, and just then I realized I was dreaming and woke up. But, everything looked like it was flying, and I still felt like I was flying. Then I fel hands on my neck, closing in as if to choke me. I rolled over quickly but there was no one there. I wondered whether or not I was dreaming, and did a few RCs. But, no, I was awake. Also, there was no dream feeling. I went back to sleep after that.

So what happened? The RCs showed I was awake, and there was no dream feeling, so I’m pretty sure I wasn’t dreaming. It was kinda freaky… :eh:

Well I meant during the different stages of REM-sleep.

Huh, difficult to notice the feeling of a dream during non-lucidness? That’s mostly when I get the feeling of that it’s a dream, once I am lucid everything becomes more vivid.

When it comes to the part of “slowing” the time down, keep in mind that it is only the perception that is the actual change and not the time itself, I wonder how fast the brain must generate everything when doing it? :confused:

Hmm about your dream, was it at night and did you just wake up when you suddenly felt it?

It might be so that you had the feeling of being choked even after you had waken up since you probably still were in a “half dreamlike” state, your conscious hadn’t waken up yet… :meh:

And yeah, if you try “slowing” the time down, please keep me updated! That’s some interesting stuff! :content: :smile:

It was two nights ago (I posted yesterday). I’d just woken up, and my eyes were open. It was really wierd…

Anyways, in my next LD I’ll try slowing time down. :smile:

I’ve always wanted to try that when i achieve lucidity

My longest lucid dream has been over 30 minutes.Normally the average one lasts around 10 minutes.