my first consciously induced obe

Beyond Dreaming
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hey, i made it, finally. i had a consciously

induced obe. i woke up at 6 am. then for

1hr, i did, relaxation, obe breathing,

trance practice, energy body loosening

and the exit technique. i did no energy

work except for full body bounce. even

after energy body loosening practice, i

didnt feel any exit symptoms. then i

stopped the practice and got up from the

bed. after 5min, i wanted to sleep in

order to have a lucid dream. i allowed

myself to relax and fall asleep. but i was

awake and i imagined falling from a very

tall building(building shown at the end of

max payne game). this seemed to

deepen the trance. then i imagined

climbing up the same building by

visualising a long rope adjacent to it. this

action immediately loosened my astral

arms.
then with those arms, i strugled myself to

pull out of body. it was very difficult and

then sat up on my bed. there was no

energy either to stand up or move by will.

i began crawling on floor. then i reached

our balcony, then i was pulled back into

body. why did i feel so weak?
i understood one thing, generally, when i

do trance practice, i lay wide awake,

often counting numbers. i count numbers

for everything…for trance, for energy

body loosening, for energy work (for me,

a count of 200 is nearly equal to 15 min,

this way i do trance upto a count of

climbing down 200 steps). but, this time,

without conting, i allowed myself to relax

and fall asleep (but i was awake), and

then, when i felt my astral arms

loosening, i did the exit technique. but i

rely on counting a lot because it helps

me from falling sleep and maintain focus.

how to maintain balance between wide

awake state and falling asleep even

while counting ths way?
why did i feel very weak while trying to

exit out of body and after the exit? is it

because i didnt do energy work during

that session?
and one more question, during trance

practice i feel energy surges or little

faling sensation (i dont understand how

to describe them exactly). but these

seem to alert and tense me, i expect that

something wud hapen later but nothing

happens. i strugle myyself to stay relaxed

when these hapen, but i somehow get

tense. what to do?

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Whoa dude, awesome! I’ve been trying to learn astral projection forever now. (Not because nothing works, but because I’m lazy & addicted to YouTube.) I can see a lot of Robert Bruce’s material in your routine. He’s the author I use too! You have Astral Dynamics? :read:

That must be incredible – one’s first conscious exit OBE. I’m going to be dedicating these next 3 & 2/3 months of my Summer vacation to astrally projecting for the first time myself. Wish me luck! :sad:

And congradulations to you!!! :partying_face:

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I want to AP badly. I also own Robert Bruce’s works: Astral Dynamics and Successful Astral Projection in 90 Days. The first book describes the theory and practice of astral projection. The second work deals more with the “how-to” mechanics of astral projection than theory exposition. Unfortunately, I don’t have much disipline when it comes to doing the energy body stimulation exercises. I just want to jump straight into the body exit techniques which is specifically discouraged as a no-no in the 90 days manual. You’re not supposed to do exit techniques until about midway through the course when the foundations of energy body stimulation and induced trance have been firmly established. I think I lack the patience and discipline to follow this course. :cry:

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Ah yeah! Mastering Astral Projection: 90 Day Guide to The Out-of-Body Experience has got to be the best book you could use to learn astral projection. That, and Astral Dynamics, are what got me started on my quest to cruise amongst the stars myself.

Don’t worry about energy body stimulation – that progresses easily. Silencing all that inner dialogue, that’s the real beasty. If you want to add some measurability to it all though, raise energy into your sub-navel storage center before/while falling asleep. I’ve done that before and it really boosts dream vividness!

I’d also recommend another one of Bruce’s books: Energy Work. It focuses soley on his tactile imaging system. The book delves into energy body stimulation techniques, what benefits & side effects to expect, the anatomy of the chakras & energy circuits, making & using thougtform tools for aggressively repairing blockages, a brief overview of the metaphysics of sex, shielding against negative energy, purifying a local area of negative energy, and even a 101 course in elemental energies ([color=green]earth[/color], [color=blue]water[/color], [color=red]fire[/color], [color=yellow]air[/color]).

Good luck on your quest to astral project Dreamcatcher!

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Thanks for the encouragement. I’m very excited about experiencing the spiritual realm directly not just through my own belief system. I’ll continue to go through the steps of energy work and trance as specified in the manual but I’m also going to breech protocol and do the exit techniques prematurely. I just can’t wait to try. I’ll keep you posted on my progress if you will let me know how you’re progressing NightOwl413. I need all the input and help I can get.

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Ah, the journey for conclusive proof! You are through with faith and are looking for knowledge! That is most admirable. :gni:

The good news is that you don’t have to breech protocol. You’re allowed to skip all that trance & energy stuff if you do the astral routine early in the morning right after waking up, because you’ll be well rested & already in an altered state of consciousness. If you haven’t read that part yet, it is in the book. So, next time you wake up at like 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning… [size=150]DO IT!!! Go for the exit!!![/size]
:tryfly:

Absolutely I’ll keep you updated! Maybe I’ll start another DJ to document my astral sojourns. That’d be a nice way to share & motivate! :woot:

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i think lucidity is so much easier than we realize ,

you have to understand when you go to sleep you go thru non dreaming sleep,

then there is a shift and you are in a lot more vivid dreams ,

this is the last 25% of the day maybe,

so,

we can’t have an alarm clock being mean to us, we have to vow to be aware of what time is it, its easy

you don’t set the alarm, then you say "oh no what time is it " so you check and see, this can happen dozens of times a night unless you are just “dead” tired,

so , if you do that and are brave, then on eof those times, you will be able to do WILD, REALLY EASY

have you not ever said "Oh no am i late for getting up " and had countless FAs about being late for school ?

why give your sleep away to an annoying beeping alarming device ? if you are vigilant and WANT to get up i will mostly guarantee in a roundabout way :wink: that you will definitely wake up before it is TIME to and check the time on your clock.

MANY times. IF you are letting yourself get a “healthy” level of sleep, etc. you’ll have to see if you have faith in this method it might not be for everyone. it just,

it gets you THERE, is the best way to put it. i can’t give disclaimers for ever and ever, i know some people won’t be willing to do this and will hate getting up and their desire to sleep will be so strong they won’t care about being up on “time” and , just, you are capable of knowing if you are that way.

i really did not ever use an alarm that i can think of in college, i would wake up often, checking the time, naturally throughout the night.