My own Quest

Almost two years ago, I managed to briefly attain lucidity, once with WILD and another while in the middle of a dream, all with prior help from SSILD. The dreamscapes were drab and boring, my senses terrible, my control waiting to slip from me at any moment, and my powers amounted only to briefly floating up a bit. It was nothing like the mind-blowing, I-can’t-believe-it’s-not-reality, colorful and generally exhilarating experiences one can read of, not even close.

But let’s start from the beginning. As a kid, I was very easily scared (wish I still was so I could enjoy all the horror games people seem to love so much), my imagination was rampant, and when you put the two together you get nightmares. I had them almost every night, I was terrified of going to sleep most nights. I also had HI so vivid that after a while in bed I could see them in the dark even with my eyes open. I often got lucid, and in those cases I always tried as best I could to wake up asap. I was also scared of going back to sleep, as I could very well resume whatever I was dreaming about.

After a few years, to try to get some peace, I started “training” myself not to see HI nor pay attention to dreams. If only I knew what power I had, but as a kid and where I live there was no way in hell I could have known. I started learning to fall asleep by focusing my sight beyond my eyelids, and after a while I basically learned to pay absolutely no attention to my vision while falling asleep. I virtually go blind behind my eyelids, for all intents and purposes. My DR got worse and worse over the years to almost non-existent.

Fast-forward to sometime in 2005, when I discovered lucid dreaming. The beginning excitement got me close to the prize many times, but I never got to it. I later gave it up, briefly trying again half-heartedly, only to fail. After a few years, I just gave it up. A couple of years ago, I tried again and got those two brief episodes I’ve described at the beginning.

I always read that everyone is different, that you need to try different things and so on. So I’ve decided to make one topic, for my “case”, to see if the more experienced people have some suggestions or even hunches about what’s wrong with me, dream-wise. I know, I’m not asking for some magic word or ritual that will make me instant-lucid. But I really have no clue what my problem is. I also mean for this to keep me focused, motivated, and to hopefully manage to slip something to my subconscious if nothing else.

This isn’t going to be a DJ, more like a chronicle of my failures, successes, and persistent stubbornness in wanting to get there. To be lucid at least a few times a month, to have even one of those beautiful and vivid experiences everyone talks about. This time, I’m not going to give it up. I don’t care how bad at it I am, I’ll just keep trying. This is gonig to be a journal of everything except the dreams, this is going to be my own Quest.

So here’s my situation, in positives and negatives:

  • As bad as my DR has been, it’s slowly improving
  • I feel I’m getting a greater understanding of techniques
  • I’m starting LL
  • In-dream, I just go with whatever
  • Whatever technique I may try, I just fall asleep, every single time
  • My mind is ultra-tired when in bed and I have a hell of a time trying to focus
  • Actually getting out of bed in the middle of the night is problematic for me
  • My HI hasn’t yet returned since it went to hell

Current status: I just remember very few fragments each night. LL doesn’t seem to be doing anything, can’t try anything that requires me to stay even partially focused because I just fall asleep. No lucidity yet since I’ve come back here.

I don’t want to stop trying anymore, I don’t want to waste the amazing potential of dreams. I want the capability for life’s most amazing, beautiful, fun and significant experiences to be a consistent part of my nights.

My idea for the moment is to try the current LD4all Quest. Key word being “try”. Who knows, maybe something will happen.

Anybody want to weigh in? Something I’m missing? Success stories? Encouragement? Motivation?

24 Oct 2013

So last night before going to sleep I decided to look up SSILD again, as it’s the only technique that got me lucid, and I realized that I didn’t notice it had a “preliminary” stage of quick, few-seconds long cycles.

I tried it, I even saw a bit of interesting HI for a bit, but I just fell asleep. Of course. This morning I realized that it’s best if I count while trying it, even if they suggest not to. For DR just a few fragments I couldn’t even post in my DJ. I also completely forgot about the challenge.

25 Oct 2013

Zero DR, fell asleep immediately when trying techniques. Just passed out. Lucid dreaming and living have been on my mind all the time yesterday. This night I’m going to get out of bed for a bit, even if it’s problematic. I can’t do anything staying in bed. Not in this state.

26 Oct 2013

No success, kept falling asleep, BUT some DR. Quite a bit actually, even if I didn’t remember everything at first. It’s still something.

Hi AnToNiO, this is long overdue, welcome back :content:

Glad to see you’ve started your own quest and are sticking with it :smile: you seem to be on the right track with your +'s and from my point of view, your negatives don’t seem that bad.

I guess that’s because I also just go with whatever and don’t use techniques so I don’t see the need of getting up in the middle of the night. As for being tired, maybe sleeping earlier could give your mind a better rest and help your dream recall.

For me dream recall came pretty easily after I started to pay attention to it. Before I started a DJ, I didn’t really notice most of my dreams, but afterwards I could recall my dreams almost everyday.

Had similar experiences too of not remembering my dream at first. I can either just shrug it away as a lost one, or try and remember and start writing and surprise myself by remembering a full dream.

Congrats on your DR last night, and on starting your quest :happy:

I kept getting back to it just to try, then giving it up for years at a time, but now I feel I have to keep trying (and hopefully succeeding) as long as I live. LDing is just too unique and amazing to miss, and now I consider every night where at least I couldn’t make an earnest effort as a wasted chance, at the very least for learning.

I got some vitamins and tryptophane-rich food yesterday evening, all was set up for some nice dreaming action… and a mosquito ruined everything. I don’t even have any stings that I know of, so it seems it was a waste of time on its part too.

I’m doing the same for tonight.

28 Oct 2013

I had some pretty long, detailed and especially emotional dreams (of which sadly I didn’t remember many details by the time I could write them down). Still too tired to try any techniques.

I WILL get out of bed tonight, I WILL get out of bed tonight, I WILL get out of bed tonight, I WILL get out of bed tonight, I WILL get out of bed tonight…

29 Oct 2013

Still nothing. Very little DR which was basically gone by the morning. Still fell asleep like a… something that falls alseep. And sucks at lucid dreaming. Yeah, that.

Going to sleep in a while, figured I’d read some guides here. MILD works primarily on faith from what I gather, of which I have none, but I will try it regardless. Who knows. I’ve also come up with a CALD character. He (?) just came to my mind while reading the CALD guide, without thinking much about it.

He basically has an electric blue tuxedo, a red hanckerchief in the left pocket on his chest, a white shirt underneath, shades, and a blue flame for a head. I needed something that screams “YOU’RE DREAMING, IDIOT”, something very distinctive and recognizable. Popped into my mind almost instantly and I intend to keep him that way. I have no idea how he’d talk, if at all. Maybe telepathically…

30 Oct 2013

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Now I’m starting to remember why I gave it up last time.

31 Oct 2013

Same. No DR, not even a hint that something could have started to work.

1 Nov 2013

Not a single freaking thing.

2 Nov 2013

Some shreds of DR back. Some guy in a green field, with three unleashed dogs running around. One of them was a collie of some kind. Like Lassie, you know? I think I’d never let my own around three of them I don’t know. Maybe I’ll post it in my DJ, maybe I won’t because that’s all there is to it. But the grass was GREEN, man.

19 Nov 2013

The last two nights I had to get up in the middle of the night or very early morning, so I figured I’d WBTB. Lots of tingling, lots of HI, and then nothing. Or just nothing straight away, straight to sleep and NDs. I’m starting to think there’s something tragically wrong with me concerning LDing.