Paradoxical, but...

i had the oddest thing happen to me last night. i was having a normal dream in which my mother was being attacked by somebody. as i was trying to help her, i suddenly realized i was dreaming and became lucid. i yelled “lucidity increase,” just to make sure i wasn’t going go wake up, and i somehow froze the attacker in place by just willing it. i felt my lucidity waver, and i woke up moments later despite trying every method i could think of to stay asleep [i could hear sounds around me coming from my house since i was half awake at this point]. none of them worked. i woke up, but here’s the bottom line:

my lucid dream felt like a normal dream
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is that even possible? i felt like my actions in my lucid dream were somehow “controlled” by my dream, like i was, well, dreaming about a lucid dream. has that ever happened to anybody else? :confused:

thanks in advance to all who reply! i appreciate it. :cheesy:

Hey Finality,

Yep, I’ve made the same experience, I think. You mean, that you actually are lucid but you still have no control over your dream, dont you?
I watched one of ReeceJones87’s video’s on youtube.com on that, he said that there are different layers of lucid dreams, and what happened to you is, I think, a Layer 1 level. You know its a dream but you dont have much control over it.

Hope I helped you

I definately have had dreams like that, where I am lucid but yet have no control over what happens. Actually, come to think of it, I’ve had lots of dreams like that. They seem more common then lucid dreams in my case.

Hope I helped. :smile:

That’s happened to me, too… sort of. I once had a false awakening, and went “back” to sleep. In that dream-in-a-dream, I was lucid enough to change a nightmare, but not lucid enough to remember what else I wanted to do. I keep thinking that if it were really a lucid dream then I should have recognized the false awakening for what it was, and done much more with the lucid-dream-in-a-dream.

I guess it’s a spectrum, how well we connect with waking-logic versus dream-logic in dreams. That goes to lucidity, but there’s also vividness… a recent post I read on another topic left an open question as to where emotions fit in the lucid or vivid dream spectrum.

I think I’d lump emotions in with lucidity instead of vividness. If it doesn’t give you the feeling of being self-possessed, then I would count a dream like yours as a normal dream-- because the subconscious controlled it completely. But, to go solely on technicalities, it’s a lucid dream because you knew you were dreaming (logic, not emotions, so the emotions go under 'vividness instead.)

… Hope that made sense (0_o)

Yeah, it really just sounds like a low-level LD, you were aware on a base level that you were dreaming; but not to the extent that you exerted great control over the dream. You did say you froze the attacker by willing it - that would definitely by dream control however. Usually when you are just barely lucid it can be hard to control the dream because your awareness that you’re dreaming is so basic that you don’t really comprehend that it is a dream and therefore uttely subject to your own will.

Next time you get lucid, focus on the fact that you’re dreaming and can do whatever you want. That might help you get a little more control.

It happens with everybody. I’ve actually only had three full-lucidity dreams before, but before that, I had a whole bunch that were only halfway. Be excited! You’re going to have one tonight, you know.