People Mock LDing

Brainhacker, if you look on this page https://www.geocities.com/xthelurker/skeptic.html it appears to say that Dennett thinks that you don’t dream. He really does think they are all false memories.

After reading this and what mystic just posted I am seriously questioning whether the academics, experts and professors actually have a clue about all these topics. I’ve always heard people say that the experts don’t know anything, but I just thought that was ridiculous. Now I’m not so sure.

I’ve met a pyschotherapist and and a psycologist who didn’t even have a clue about Lucid dreams. The psychotherapist tried to get me examined becuase he thought I was crazy :content: , the psychologist didn’t believe at first until I brought a time life book that had told about scientific evidence of lucid dreams, not she’s gonna start looking into it :cool:

Just go to your libary and find any book about the human mind during sleep and un-consiousness from a reputable source and you’ll find something about lucid dreams usually. Just give them the scientific proof and try to see if they deny it.

What I don’t understand is why people think that LDs are so crazy. They are not, directly, anything that we would call paranormal or supernatural. You can be a complete materialist, yet still accept them and have them. Even if they were it is not as if the entire public is opposed to belief in supernatural phenomena. It is quite strange to me that astrology is largely accepted as genuine, near-death experiences are widely assumed to be real, but LDs are not.

What I don’t understand is why people think that LDs are so crazy. They are not, directly, anything that we would call paranormal or supernatural. You can be a complete materialist, yet still accept them and have them. Even if they were it is not as if the entire public is opposed to belief in supernatural phenomena. It is quite strange to me that astrology is largely accepted as genuine, near-death experiences are widely assumed to be real, but LDs are not.

I don’t get that either, Ms. cleo was ranking in cash with gullible fools, yet if you were to bring lucid dreamings or OBEs to their attention, they would most likely laugh at you. As for astrology, I think it’s becuase most people don’t take them seriously. They probaly see it as something fun like a oujiwa board.

I also think it’s becuase of the christian morals in our nation and scientific look at everything. To most of the christian people I know, they seem to think of anything not normal but taken seriously to be some sort of heretic or witch activity. Plenty of people won’t except the possiblity of anything un-realistic sounding until you show them some proof. My psychologist didn’t believe lucid dreams until I showed her the scieintific proof and my parents didn’t believe it was healthy until a respected 60 yr. psychologist told them otherwise.

People seem to be too cynical towards anything they don’t know. Very few people who are willing to see if something fantasy-sounding is true or even consider it sadly.

hit the nail on the head there sleep. sad isnt it.

as for my name being pop? hell no not here in aussie. i was the only richard at my high school and now at college there is one other richard ( he is a total creep by the way) think i might kill him :smile: it isnt the name it is the person ( i am modest no)

any way tell everybody and if u end up getting locked away look on the bright side. atleast then u will have ages time to practice lucid dreaming :content:

Richard

And here I was thinking everyone had lucid dreams during some point in their life. I never realised some would deny they exist. Once a person has had a high level LD there’s no denying it then, although I’m still coming to terms with HL LD’s that are more intense than RL.

I’ve found that if you talk of lucid dreams, people look at you as if you are crazy or talking about religious/paranormal somethings. On the other hand if you refer to “sex dreams” where you know your dreaming and so you can have sex with anything with little consequence everyone nods there heads and says “yeah I know what you mean. I have them.”

lmfao. it is all in how you say it huh. say if with confidence and you will go far :content:

I shouldn’t have mentioned LD’s to the couple I was talking to from my ex religion. They looked at me like I was a Satan worshiper or something.

It’s odd how anything unknown or simply not understood is automatically associated with… the devil!!! :eek:

It’s a shame, but most people are taught that dreams are meaningless, and to pay little attention to them. Very few people have experienced lucidity since they were 7 or 8, so most of them don’t even remember it. It’s become generally accepted that dreams are uncontrollable, cloudy and easily forgotten. Most people will probably try to tell you that they only dream once every couple of weeks on average. It’s no surprise that all of the above have essentially become true.

Even if people were educated on the topic, many still wouldn’t promote the ability. They’d claim it detracts from their real life, and doesn’t provide anything in return.

they can claim then we can throw it in their face how it does the opp and actally helps our real life. i think we are better off lol