Pitch Black

That is a good idea, the expecting to be there when you turn around. Sort of a variant of expectation technique of LD. That vs the direct observing manifest technique. I think the former is easier, i’ll probably try that first.

The two main techniques i use to attempt LD’s are WILD and ‘noticing of dream feeling’

Dream feeling discussion here

https://community.ld4all.com/t/dream-feeling/10157

Too bad im in a dry spell right now LOL. should end tonight (hopefully), pull a mix between mnemonic and wild. In fact its not just WILD as i stated above but a mix between belief i’ll have one and then pulling a WILD to get there. (not terribly successful, i’ll prob post a new thread about my current WILD troubles)