Rapid Eye Movement Ruining LD attempt

Quest for Lucidity
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Couldn’t find a clear answer to these by searching the web or the forum here.

Is REM what is happening right before you enter a dream? If so, then I’m not too far away from achieving LD.

…But, here’s the problem. Whenever REM accurs it always ruins my LD/WILD attempts. Maybe I focus to much on it. Any tips?

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This thread is so hilarious in many degree.

  1. You always have REM when you dream, no exceptions.
  2. REM happens about 1 hour after you’re asleep.
  3. You can never observe it happening to yourself, because of point 2.

You’re probably hallucinating.

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more clearly, REM - Rapid Eye Movement is when your eyes move IRL accordingly to how your dream-eyes move in your dreams. aka REM = DREAMING

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Ok, to make it more clear: WhenI try to WILD… after a while my eyes start to move “rapidly” and it ruins my WILD attempt.

Maybe that’s not what a “REM” is, but that’s what I guessed it was.

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If you stare at one object too long it wakes you up because it interrupts the Rapid Eye Movement

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yes, you’ve misunderstood.

but if i understand you correctly your eyes annoy you while attempting to WILD and making you lose focus?

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when I try to WILD I keep my eyes still and it’s no problem, but when I’m getting close they start opening and closing fast.

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okey, i think i kinda have the same problem.

someone here on LD4All claimed he blinked rapidly for a few minutes before attempting to wild as to tire the eyelids out and prevent them from opening (as easily anyway).

don’t know if it works though.

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I’ll try that out :smile: thanks for tip.

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No problem!

And if it works, i’d very much like to know! :smile: