Recurring objects

squakMix · April 1, 2005, 2:24am

Is it possible to collect/get something in a dream and then set it up so that that is there the next time you have a lucid dream? Maybe have a special box or backpack you always keep with you that you will have when you go into a dream? I think it’d be cool to have a few things in a backpack that’d be useful in a lucid dream.

Hell, the backpack it’self would be useful - it could be used to “conjure” items. Maybe a peice of cloth or towel or some gravel would also be useful for increasing lucidity when you can’t think of anything to use in a dream.

I dunno - just an idea. Anyone think this could work?

flipasso · April 1, 2005, 2:56am

i don’t think i really understood the question, but i will post my own question inspired on yours.
Is it possible when you LD that you program your self (kinda like a PC) to make a strange object appear in your future dreams so that you become lucid? kinda like forcing yourself a mnemonic?

Xetrov · April 1, 2005, 3:21pm

Hey squakMix,

What you suggest is possible. If you convince yourself that any time you are lucid, you will find this backpack and that inside it, is anything that you need, it might succeed. Remember that most of what happens is based upon expectations.

phatidico - This could be possible aswell, it kind of reminds me of the whole “brainhack” stuff done by some people here (I know Retro for example experimented with that quite succesfully, according to him). I would suggest to try it and see what the results are (perhaps take a dreamsign that appears already often in your dreams?), and report them to us ofcourse . Good luck with that!

Sureal · April 1, 2005, 5:47pm

phatidico: A number of people have tried asking a DC (whilst lucid) to come into all of their dreams, and to tell them that they’re dreaming.

As far as I know though, no one has had any success with this…

Randi · April 1, 2005, 6:42pm

In the book “The Lucid Dreamer” by Malcolm Godwin they suggest that you create a dream room that you can use as a home base for lucid dreaming:

This is a lucid dream scenario for the dreamer who is able to dream lucidly on command. Decide to create a room which is set apart from all other realms. Preferably start with a door to which only you possess the key. You open the door and will the creation of a room which is private and secret - for you alone. This is your temple, a sacred, quiet place where you can be yourself and are completely at ease. You notice you have collected a number things. All your hopes and desires are here. The paintings and drawings around the room illustrate these desires and yearnings. Here you will find memories of your favorite people, or you can meet them here through a magical portal which is in one wall. All the creme de la creme of your memories are here in some form. Just allow them to form slowly after you have created the whole room as your inner sanctum. When you leave the room you can lock the door to ensure that only you can enter.

Make a point of going back to this room every time you dream or remember to do so. Inspect the memories from time to time and check if any are changing or wether certain cherished persons have anything to say to you as they come throught the portal. Maybe they pick up objects in the room. This special place is your check on being whole and healthy, your “state of play” room.

Sounds really cool to me but it’s still beyond my abilities at this point.

Basilus_West · April 2, 2005, 1:03am

It seems to me that siberian shamans do something like this. But when they found an object during their transe, then they make it IRL. I’m not 100 percent sure.