Requesting advice/introduction

Quest for Lucidity
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Hello there! I go by db as that is my initials. I’m 19 yrs old and have been having lucid dreams throughout the majority of my life. When I was 6 yrs old my father explained lucid dreaming to me. He explained how easy it was for younger people and said that if I start practicing now I would never regret it. 13 years later and Ive had around 15-20 LD’s throughout my lifetime.

My problem is that I had my first LD when I was 6, and my most recent was 3 yrs ago when I was 16. My father had explained how as one gets older they need to focus more on waking life, which causes dream life to start to slowly fade.
From what I have read on this website there are many things one can use to help better their chances of having a lucid dream, none of which I have ever done. :tongue:
Everything that I’m reading about on this site, I’ve never heard of.(such as the specific techniques). Ever since I started LD’ing I had just been using WILD every night and would occasionally have a MILD.(neither of which I knew I was doing, I just saw it as trying to enter a dream)

So, my questions are:
Which technique have you found to work best?
Since i’m doing WILD every night, are there any tips you have or specific things I can do to help make it successul that you’ve found to work yourself?

And if there are any other tips or advice you can give me I appreciate it greatly! Also if you have questions regarding myself feel free to ask!

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the best way is to refuse to roll over when you notice you have a really strong desire to , and if you are patient then you might see the images begin to become incredibly strong and then you touch them and you are in a dream.

this is easier with WBTB, setting an alarm for 3 hours, letting yourself sleep 3 hours, then doing a WBTB and then trying it ,

hover your mouse over WBTB and it will explain what it means.

the thing is you will REALLY want to roll over, often times more than you want to dream.

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Hello to you too! It’s good to have a new member here with a lot of experience.

Yes, unfortunatly, this is the case. As you get older, most have their spirits crushed beyond recognition from mundane day to day life and work (is there a difference?).

Personally, I’ve used DILD (Dream Induced Lucid Dream) to great success. You just have to be good at recognizing you are in a dream. Spot your dream signs, and use RC’s (Reality Checks) throughout the day, make it a habit. The habit will follow you into the dream world and voila.

MILD is also your safety net. Just put some Lucid thoughts into your subconscious before you go to bed, just like your subconscious remembers to wake you up before your alarm goes off, it will help you become lucid.

Two things, patience, and experience. There is a good WILD tutorial on Dreamviews Here. Hope it helps.

If you have any other questions, just ask. Hope you like it here on Ld4all.

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@presence of light: yes I am SOO familiar with that feeling of wanting to move around when you’re trying to lay still for a WILD. :cry: This is my first experience EVER talking to someone about LD’ing other than my family and hearing these experiences and reading some of the things people do is giving me the chills because I feel like I’ve known you all my whole life! :peek: it’s wonderful talking about it and seeing that everyone has essentially the same problems!

@working class hero: I will try DILD tonight, I’ve never tried that so Im very excited to see how that will work! The link for the WILD technique is great I think that will help me out a lot!

Thanks for the advice so much!! I can see already that I’ll love it here :grin:
I hope to hear more and meet more of you!

Thanks again this should help a lot already.

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Hi db, and welcome! :wave:

I can garantee you that if you started very young (even if it faded away) you’ll get good at it pretty quick :wink: Just take a look around and make yourself comfy! :grin:
And feel free to ask questions and share experiences because that will motivate everybody :happy:

Good luck

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Hey mattias! :smile: thanks for the enouragement, lifes getting very busy lately so i’ve been struggling with my dream life lately :sad:

I see that you and many others have dream journals. From reading on here I see that it helps with dream recall quite a bit. I’ve never kept note of my dreams because I usually remember about 3-5 dreams from each night, with the occassional time where I’m extremely tired and remember none at all :sad: . As I’m reading dream journals Im thinking to myself that I actually wish I would have started one when I was very young, that’d be really neat to be able to read all the dreams I’ve had, and the only dreams that I can remember long-term are the few important ones most people have, and the ones where I was lucid. So I’ve decided to start keeping one:) last night was my first entry!
I’ll be posting the entires on here but I’ll wait a little while and let my dreams add up :tongue:

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Cool :content: Yes, keeping a DJ helps increase the amount of dreams you remember and the detail. That usually helps to get you more aware of and in your dreams, leading to lucidity.

Being busy really can make dream progress slower :sad: I just try to enjoy even more my weekends and I’ve also been taking a few naps here and there which have become pretty fun and productive :razz:

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Yeah I think a main point of succesfully lucid dreaming is just relaxing and not worrying about it a lot, just let it happen and it most likely will :smile:

@anyone: from your experience with WILD would you say that you’ve had more success with it when day-time-napping or with going to bed as usual and trying it then?
I ask because I don’t take naps and never have, so if napping can be quite successful I think I might try it more often :smile:

Thanks everyone

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db

First of all, I have to say how awesome it is that your father guided you into Lucid Dreams from early in your childhood. I plan to do the same thing with my two children, and can’t wait to start detailing techniques and stratagies, especially when they have nightmares. “Daddy knows a way to beat the nightmare, but it may take a lot of work” :tongue:

Also, I’m quite envious of your early exposure, as I had my first lucid dream at the age of 19 (I’m 30 now), and had to find out what my experience was called, never having heard the term “lucid dream” before. So, great head-start, and huge potential for you do really develop your LD skills.
When I WILD, it is always after sleeping several hours first. So getting up at 4am or 5am and reading about lucid dreaming (on this site or in a book), drinking some juice (not coffee or anything stimulating), and just giving myself about 30 minutes of peace and reflection time (not much of that during the day with two small children :cool: ) and laying down in a different room than I was sleeping to reduce disturbinig sounds or other distractions. REM will set back in pretty much right away once you fall asleep, whereas if you tried it at night, there are several brainwave types to pass through before a short REM phase begins. Basically its almost 2 hours of wakefulness fighting sleep, followed by a very small window to have a lucid dream.

But your nap REM state can easily last nearly an hour on the heals of 3 or 4 hours of sleep prior to your return to dreamland!

I’ve also used the method of just realizing you are dreaming from dreamsigns (great to use your new Dream Journal to identify reoccurring patters) or oddities that I don’t rationalize away right away (like I often do in normal dreams).

But my single biggest boom in becoming Lucid and granting me great confidence in my belief in the dream state is the “nose plug” reality check. Seriously, db, do this and you are set. It will ALWAYS fail in real, waking reality (the one with consequences), and it will ALWAYS work when you are dreaming.

Just pinch your nose with your finger and your thumb, and try to inhale a breathe while the airway is plugged. That’s it.

If you are awake, you obviously can’t breathe in. If you are dreaming, you will draw a strange breath of air from somewhere that’s not quite clear. You can breathe through your nose even though you pinched the airways closed! Now you can be truly sure, you are dreaming. And with that comes the confidence neccessary to really start manipulating the dream world to your desire.

One last thing, rub your hands together frequently to make sure the dream continues in a stable state and you don’t wake up after a minute or two. There can be a big difference between a 30 second lucid dream and one that lasts 10 or more minutes!

Best of success!

Perpetual Lucidity

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@perpetual lucidity: yes I feel lucky to have had my father teach me how to ‘wakeup’ in the dream world. When he taught me he had no idea what it was called or what the possibilities were. He had simply became aware that he was dreaming before and was able to stay in the dreams for some time. The only problem he had was that he didn’t know what he could do within the dream. He just knew he could control how the dream formed and turned out to be, he had no idea he could do literally anything. It’s sort of ironic but I actually ended up teaching my father how to control everything and do what he wanted when I was only 8 years old, which is when I mastered the majority of lucid dreaming. He was amazed the first time that I told him I was making myself fly by pure willpower and that I had set a building on fire by simply thinking about it. At first he almost didn’t believe me, he knew that he could change a dreams outcome but had no idea that he was in control of EVERYTHING. After teaching him my techniques for manifesting things to happen in my dreams he quickly learned it and was having more fun with it than I’m sure he thought was possible.

So I’m very glad my father showed me what he knew when I was young because I opened up the entire world of LD’ing to him at the same time that he opened it up to me :wink: .

To anyone with young children id recommend teaching them ASAP. It helps to cope with the real world, having something to look forward to everynight. Also as a child it is VERY easy to be successful with LD’ing. I would only have LD’s every now and then even as a child but they would last days and sometimes weeks In the dreamworld. Young children also have a huge imagination and see literally nothing as impossible, so in the dreamworld this is even more so. Children learning to LD at very young ages could possibly open up EVEN MORE than we already know about LD’ing! :happy:

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Oh, please don’t say that! You’ll put the idea that it’s hard into their heads! For kids it’s pretty easy, so you can just say it’s easy and it will be. If by ANY chance they actually have trouble with getting lucid, then I guess you can mention the fact that so many people struggle to get lucid :lol:

But yes, I also want to tell my kids about it someday, no doubt!

db, if you really want to see how far you can get (not saying it’s the limit!) check out WritersCube’s DJ. He’s been LD’ing since he was 4. There are other great LD’ers here too, though :smile:

EDIT: Oh, and I’ve done nose RC’s that didn’t work! :bored: probably not exactly the RC’s fault. I think once I actually couldn’t breathe and once I could partially (thought my nose was just plugged or something…)

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Hahah how ironic, I’ve literally spent all day reading Writerscube’s DJ o.0
I saw a post where some people mentioned his DJ and were saying how amazing it was. I started from the beginning of his newest DJ ( number 3 ) and I am absolutely amazed by it. (I’m only on page 3 :tongue: )

Having not had an LD in over 3 years I cannot wait to have another just from reading about Writerscube. He’s given me ALOT of inspiration to start LD’ing again, and more often than I ever have.

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Haha i wish my parents taught me when i was young. My family thinks i’m the nut of my whole family. and think LDing is weird

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Do not frett Rhett (lol :tongue: ) my dads side of the family is full of nut jobs with the occasional LD’er and my moms side is as normal as possible. Being stuck in the middle isn’t so bad though, I can decide which environment to be in :tongue:

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And now for my shameless plug. Rhett, you may want to check this topic for dealing with your family on LD’s.

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There are a ton of techniques out there, but I don’t believe one is better than the other. I look at it more as finding out which one works best for you.

Try all the different varieties and see which helps you achieve your goals. Be sure to set focus on your goals before you go to sleep. Clear your head and think your intentions to yourself as many times as you feel like. The repetition of doing this on a nightly basis will increase your odds, as you’re training your mind to help you achieve your goals.

Good luck. :smile:

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I find the wild technique works best for me