OK, just last night I had my first lucid dream (which you can read about HERE) The thing is, throughout the entire dream, it felt like there was another person inside of my head, desperately trying to convince myself that everything here is a dream. As my body was doing things like driving cars and eating, this voice kept on shouting, “HEY! You can’t drive a car if you didn’t put the keys in! This HAS to be a dream!” or “HEY! You’re not a dog! You’re 100% human! You’re obviously dreaming!” and “HEY! This food is more delicious then anything you’ve ever eaten! Only dream food’s like that!”
Take note, that’s not EXACTLY what it said, but you get the picture.
What is this voice? My guess is that it’s my own mental desperation to have a lucid dream that I’ve surpressed for so long that it’s manifested itself into a shouting, obsessive disembodied voice, desperate to be heard… can that happen? Can your own emotions and desperations acheive sentiance if held down for too long?
Yay you have a Shin too! Some of my dreams have some peculiar narrating back–of–my–mind voices: not exactly voices, not even voice overs, but rather things that taste just like thought, but I know are not my own thoughts. (I do have that “voice” in waking life too, but way weaker usually.)
I figured that the voice in waking life (that I used to call my little conscience cricket, before I decided to call it my demon, my poet and now Shin), which is just a second stream of thought I have and most people seem not to, got incorporated in my dreams as a stronger voice, as if it wasn’t just a stream of thought, but a whole personality, an entity dwelling in my head.
It’s not like schizophrenia, because it’s not a real voice and it’s not spatial—it’s thought, inside my head—but on the other hand it’s not like normal reasoning because it doesn’t feel like the thought came from me so to speak. In the dreams, the feeling is so strong that rather than just a secondary stream of thought, I deal with a whole other personality.
You could be doing the same with your wakinf life emotions. Did it ring any bells?
i know what you mean and i have the same question. It use to happen to me when i was awake and id heard voices. Im really not a crazy person its just the effects of wanting to LD so badly. I hear things when im drifting off to sleep also or trying to AP / WILD. I personally think its someone trying to guide me but maybe ill never know.
No, I was definately listening- It was just sort of pointing out the obvious, like it didn’t want me to go into normal dreaming, so it constantly reminded me that I was lucid- it was only mildly annoying. I think the voice started up just as I was leaving the asylum and hijacked a minivan. When I drove away without the use of car keys, it immediatly began telling me that driving without car keys is impossible unless I hotwired it, and I agreed.
Schizofrenia is to listen, fell, etc something that your brain invented.
But you are dreaming, you are in the same level as your mind, it shouldn’t be something to worry.
I think it’s yourself, it’s just a consequence of your RC tries or LD inducings, making your lower levels a bit paranoic. You will realise that it’s easier to control than you think.
Btw Bruno, I can have a great chat with myself, with great ideas, it’s just the proof of the many levels of the mind, but in my dreams I don’t have a voice like that, because my DCs do the job most times!
/me ponders about “Shin” word origin… Schizofrenia ScHIzofreNia!!!
maybe not…
The point is, thought feels like something that comes from myself, that originates in my mind, whilst Shin, although being just like any other thought, feels like something exterior, something that didn’t come from me.
Comes from the Arabic letter shin (ش), first letter of the words “demon” and “poet.”
Some of my dreams have some peculiar narrating back–of–my–mind voices: not exactly voices, not even voice overs, but rather things that taste just like thought, but I know are not 