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Thanks much! 
No CosmonautFantome, I don’t necessarily agree with Occam’s Razor, I just agree that people need to be retought how to debate, how to use the Scientific Method, and how to use logic, instead of just pointlessly arguing stupidly like a couple of young children going “Uh uh” “Uh huh” “Uh uh” “Uh huh”. I believe this is what Dreamfortehwinz was trying to get at.
Wow, you sure are putting lots of words in my mouth. That was something on the lines of…what is it…oh yeah an EXAMPLE. Not saying that the internet and shared dreaming have EVERYTHING in common and every rule permits to both of them at the same time.
What I am trying to put out there is, you shouldn’t wait for this scientific results to come, because they arn’t coming any time soon. If you want to believe, then I suggest you try and share dream. Once that experience happens to you, then you will understand our views. I’m not trying to make this huge argument like your setting it up as. All I’m saying is if you want to believe in it, go for it! You can’t really deny that it exists, if you experience it.
*bendrummin58: How do you know I haven’t tried? (From the Big Shared Dream Thread Part 2)
"Once I had a lucid dream where I told a good friend that he was dreaming. He had never tried Lucid Dreaming, but he expressed a slight interest in it when I told him. In the dream, he told me to prove he was dreaming, and I showed him a billboard with writing on it, told him to look away, and then look back. At this point, he believed me, and we talked for a bit, and I was utterly convinced we were sharing a dream, because nothing he said aroused any suspision he may just be a normal DC.
In my Dream Journal, I had wrote it seemed to have lasted less than five minutes, and I remember we had a jumping contest, (we’re very competitive in real life). When the dream started to fade, I realized he might not even remember the dream, so I told him I would describe it the next day to him so he would remember.
I brought it up during lunch, and he didn’t seem to know anything about it. He just laughed and asked me “So who won the jumping contest?”
Back on topic however, I didn’t put any words in your mouth, and it wasn’t my intention to purposely remove or tamper with the context. Do you think you could clarify the points you made? I might have been a little unclear.
Once again- I’m not trying to attack you.
You actually could’ve had a shared dream with him. He could’ve just forgotten about it completly, or maybe he was too embarrased to say he remembered.
But even if it wasn’t doesn’t mean you should instantly say it’s not possible. You tried Shared Dreaming un-intintionally (uh…cant spell). Try actually doing it with somebody you know is in to LDs, and somebody close by. Make sure you guys fall asleep at the same time, and make sure at least one of you can actually get lucid 
All you really have to do is say, ok meet at this place. And…you actually don’t even need to be lucid, now that I think of it. Just MILD yourself or VILD yourself to sleep thinking of a certain place you guys want to meet. And then you might have a shared normal dream, which is just as good.
The way you tried in your LD, by just figuring out if that was a DC or a real person, is also an effective way to see if your having a shared dream. Just ask the DC if he is the real person or not, and tell him/her not to lie. Crazy as it sounds, may work.
What exact points are you talking about? The ones in my very first post, or the scattered ones…lol.
eh…either way, I’ll answer tomorrow, time to sleep and have some Shared LDs 
[Hopefully]
Actually, there isn’t anyone I know whose into Lucid Dreaming. Some have expressed slight interest, but none have gone further than that, other than a guy I knew for a few years, and we started together in the summer before 8th grade. That was 3 years ago, and I’m just now getting into it again.
That being said, I would like to believe, and I’m certainly willing to try. Once I get regular at having LD’s again, I think it would be worth a shot, as even if I don’t hit the astronomical jackpot to have a shared dream, I will still have a relatively intelligent DC to converse with.
As for the point I needed clarification with? Forget about it, I’m too tired, and I don’t feel like picking this argument up again. So, g’night all.
If shared dreaming is possible, it’s most likely have something to do with telepathy… which also hasn’t been proved/may not exist.
Hmm…that’s a very interesting connection, Sureal. I guess it makes sense though… Yea, now that I think about it, that would explain almost everything. Our minds could have some sort of natural, sub-concious(spelling?) telepathic ability… 
telepathic like stuff is basically the outline of my whole “theory” to begin with! 
sorry, haven’t read a whole lot about it… 
Its a shame one with such a strong desire to be viewed as intelligent and scientifically sound fails to see the irony of his own words.
Tsk.
I agree with Ben, for several reasons. Its as possible as anything else discussed on this board.
Dont let people shoot your ideas down, kid. Drawing freehand is much more impressive than connecting the dots.
(Its also more impressive than googling)
Hmmm…interesting thread,i wonder how come i have missed it.
Anyways…theres a good point about shared dreaming having to do with telepathy.We know many cases, mainly about siblings(not sure if i spell it right) who sometimes feel if theres something wrong or good happening to other one.So there could be a way two (or more) brains can communicate for long distances.It does not have to be anything super spirituall- we might just not know everything about electrical processes of the brain.
As you can make it from words above i think shared dreaming is possibile.As a side note id like to say that sleeping in the same time isnt really that necesarry- time is relative when we dream(i can imagine one dreaming person leaves a note with a password in living room and few nights later other participant sees it in his/her dream).
And above all im suprised seeing the manner Dreamfortehwinz writes his posts.First of all this is not strictly sciencific forum.Its not math4all but ld4all.Therefore i dont see why we HAVE TO make posts backed up by sciencific proofs.Especially in the thread about shared dreaming which we perfectly know hasnt been sciencifically proven.We discuss the possibilities here!
And again- just because some people think science is to tell them whats real and whats not does not mean rest has to follow this point of view.I agree science can be a great tool to explain some things,i also think its not the tool for everything- ESPECIALLY not to all things about spirituality where personal experience says more than any sciencist.Ask for sciencificall explanation of love and see if it matches the experience.
And one more thing- ive been here for a very long time now and i really dont seem to remember times when any of the mods had to censor anything except unproper behaviour(and this very rarely) and i dont see in posts of this thread even close to something that “wouldnt be tolerated before”.
take care:)
I don’t know if I believe in this theory although it sounds feasable, I think if it were true our brains could be connected by something like extremely low power radio waves.
Well, I never count anything out until it can be proven that it doesn’t exist. I don’t believe that shared dreaming is impossible but I believe it would be very difficult. I think maybe two people can share a bond that could make them share or telepathically coexist in one dream world.
And you’ll all excuse me if this isn’t anything like what you’re discussing but to me it seems so.
Up until I was about 24 my younger brother and I were close. We’re even close in age. I’m not even 10 months older than he. Anyhow, I had this dream once where I was standing in this nicely groomed field with a white house off in the distance. When it began to feel hot. I turned around and saw my brother when he was about 10. He had flames all around him and looked really scared. He looked up at me and said “I think this is the end for me…” and said my name. I told him it wasn’t and to be brave that I would find a way to help him. I woke up that morning in a panic. I called my mom to ask if she knew anything of my brother but she said no. Not a half hour later, she called and told me the police went to her house to inform her that there was an explosion on the ship my brother was stationed on and he was among the missing. To skip all the details. When my brother was finally located, in a hospital, we spoke. He told me that during one of the many explosions on the ship blew him back, pinning his ankle between a set of steel doors knocking him unconscious. He said it was at that moment he saw me and repeated those same words, he’d said to me in my dream.
Sorry, the posting was long. But unless someone can tell me otherwise. Maybe he wasn’t dreaming but he wasn’t conscious either. He was in Japan and I in Puerto Rico. So unless, someone can prove that this kind of thing doesn’t exist than I believe it’s possible