Shared Dreaming via Quantum Telepathy?

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First of all, let me begin by saying that I have been pretty skeptical of shared dreaming in the past, but I do admit that the entire concept of it is not entirely impossible. Everyone wished that they could just meet a friend in an LD and actually go do something with that person, while they are both experiencing the same thing in their dreams. Through things that I’ve seen and read, I’ve decided that the idea of shared dreaming is not so impossible. First of all, there is not really any law of physics that prevents telepathy from being real. Many of us have heard of the bizarre implications of quantum mechanics. An effect known as quantum entanglement could provide some insight as to how telepathy, and therefore shared dreaming might be possible. Quantum entanglement is a bizarre effect where two particles have a deep connection between them. For example, lets think of two electrons vibrating in unison, in a state known as coherence. Even if we drag each electron to opposite ends of the universe, there remains a deep connection between them. If you change the spin on one electron, the other changes as well. So, it’s possible that at the beginning of time, just after the big bang occurred, the wave function of all particles were entangled, creating a mysterious connection between all objects in the universe. So, one might therefore conjecture that this could be the means by which shared dreaming might occur; through deep quantum connections deep inside the brains of all people on earth. Therefore, I don’t think it would be a mistake to keep an open mind toward shared dreaming, although I will probably still have a certain degree of skepticism toward it for some time. Thoughts please.

There are animals that use telepathy to communicate with each other. I’m pretty sure this is fairly accepted now.

You bring up some good points, and I think in the end that it is in fact possible, but I feel the odds of it happening are low. I’m sure there’s a probability factor that comes into play somewhere along the line. There tends to always be. I don’t know enough about quantum mechanics to get scientific about it, but what you are saying makes sense.

I’m on the fence with this one as well.

What animals are those?

Remebering of course that it is possible to comminicate using the tinyest of things detectable by the animal/person such as body language or whatever.

'You know like how its possible is you have your eyes closed you can tell a lot just from hearing the footsteps of someone walking past.

right, but think about that, say a wag of a tail

say there is a gland that is the same as wagging your tail, and when you fire it it sends out vibrations that are received

what you’re saying is that it takes an effort of energy to create communication, no?

If I get it right, in order to have quantum telepathy the two communicating brains should have a quantum connection, and there is no way to tell those connections, so it’s not impossible, but the chances of it happening are… well, random, unknown, no way to tell.

interesting questions.

I think another form of what you are referring to is called quantum wave potential and by trying to measure it we come across something that can now be observed, called the observer effect. I am still learning this stuff so bear with me. The native aboriginals of Australia called this process The Dreaming, other religions have called it God or One or Self, Wisdom Clear Mirror. All the same thing ( I know someone is bound to get upset by that comment)

In regards to communication and vibes being sent out consider this.

Water, I am sure most of you who are posting here have heard of molecules of emotion or have seen the pictures of water that have had their molecular structure changed just from thoughts towards it or messages written on bottles?

well the human body is like lettuce, made mostly out of water, and your thoughts actually effect the shape of the water molecules inside your body, Outside your body there is also a lot of water in the air, your thoughts / mood etc effect not only the water inside your body but also outside your body, get close enough to someone and pick up that “vibe” part of that is water molecules, and your own also being changed just by being close to the source, ever been around someone who is angry and no matter how hard your try most of the time you feel it ’ rub off on you’.

Of course there are so many other things that effect your mood, weather t be unconscious signals of body lang, scent and different chemicals being released by the host, speech, vibrations, electromagnetic field etc.

Now as for quantum wave potential, entanglement and the observer effect, they can all interact here as I have mentioned slightly above and how you have mentioned too.

But what is more impossible, the fact that we are all separate or all joined in some way or another?

Think about that question seriously, your answer will lead you to the next question

: if that the case, what does that mean for shared dreaming, and therefore where is my consciousness located, inside my mind? projected? in your mind? or is it all connected and we make everything happen with each other like laws of attraction.

Well thanks a lot of that guys, its 10pm here and I know that I will be up all night enjoying thinking about this.

Cheers

Rich