Oh yeah, I think I might have had 6 yesterday…
But I’m a bit unsure on how to count them… technically if I wake from a dream and have to re-enter (this takes some skill) then that should count as 2 instead of one?
So if I have to re-enter 5 or 6 times, is that 5 or 6 separate lds? Even though I’m just re-entering the one I’m trying to stay in?
I haven’t been that liberal with my counting, but I do tend to count interupted/re-entered LDs as 2 or 3… just because I mean… if I get mad and move then the process is ruined and I can’t go back, so it takes a bit of practice and patience and experience to keep going back into these (and it also drains me… you know… my body wants me up at 5, I tell it no and sleep till 12… hehe…)
But yes as far as I know I think I had 4 yesterday… I initially told myself during the night “i think you’ve had 6, or will have 6 when you go back to sleep then get up” but since I only really remember:
church dream, I got mad at a band that sang a descriptive song about hell and tried to make them think I was Jesus… complete with walking on water and making green energy from my hands explode (that was mega cool and sort of blew the dream apart and it slowly faded back together… and I was being “Jesus” in a sarcastic way, just to make points to them, somehow, about how to not be judgemental)
ND car dream…into LD about sex.
ermm… hmm… I’ve forgotten a lot of them already… oh well… I had 4 counting having to re-enter one once.
I think having to re-enter should definitely count, since afterall it’s technically another dream after that, since you’ve woken up.
But if it does definitely count then technically I could have 10 or more LDs a night since sometimes an LD in the morning will just NOT want to stay together and I have to go back in 3-4, maybe 6 or more times.
So… go figure.
it would help if i bothered to write my dreams down though, but most aren’t really all that abnormal or exceptional… what was quite good about the ND car dream was that my car was no bigger than a small toy and I had a devil of a time trying to figure out how I was supposed to get in it and drive it around all these normal sized cars… lol… somehow I did…
and then I’d have to get out and navigate through a metal gated post office entrance (maze like in nature) to get back on the highway… it was crazy in a great way… if I didn’t waste the lucidity with sex that place would have been great to explore. But on the plus side, the sex was GOOD! (sort of!)
Now then… wow… off topic, my oh my… well… not really because of the church dream
I’d just like to throw “think for yourself, question authority” - Timothy Leary at everyone, so many people only believe what they believe because “it’s how I was raised” well golly gee whiz, if your daddy was a cult leader think where’d you’d be right now.
If your religion is worth beliving in, it’ll withstand questioning… I “know” if there is a GOD out there, he wants you to try and MAKE YOUR OWN BELIEFS… rather than trust in an establishment that wants to control you as much as possible.
Because it’s like… how easy would it be to set up a “church” mentality to further some sort of screwed up agenda (it happens all the time) if these people are born into it blindly following it “just becuase” then it doesn’t make any sense, it could be run by the damn anti-christ for all you know… God would want you to question the hell out of any beliefs placed upon you/you were born into, to make sure that you really believe what you do, and that you aren’t being brainwashed and led off a cliff or something.
This includes questioning the Bible too… becuase it’s been in t he hands of many a corrupt man who could have altered things here and there for whatever reasons he wants.
Which in fact, I dare say probably happened in the middle ages when the church had the only copies of the Bible and wouldn’t let normal people see it… many scholars/historians believe the church of the middle ages invented the whole concept of hell to scare people into doing what they say.
So therefore, this is why I encourage you to question your beliefs, regularly… God would understand, and I think he’d want you trusting HIM rather than a preacher or an ancient book, right? How do you know his will is in the book if we “have free will” ? Someone could have altered it…
Hence trying to grow spiritually and conginitvely by QUESTIONING YOUR BELIEFS… if there’s a God I’d think he would applaud people for doing that and try and present them with the right way.
And by questioning I don’t mean “preacher, what does this mean?” … find the answers on your own… or at least, seek help from many others, not just one perosn who has been thinking for you for your whole life.
if you don’t question your beliefs, they are not YOUR beliefs to begin with, and you don’t deserve to have them
it’s people that think questioning is dangerous that are responsible for all this control right now… QUESTIONING THE GOVERNMENT IS WRONG, LET’S LET THEM DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO AND BLINDLY WAVE OUR FLAGS, THEY CARE ABOUT THE COMMON MAN!!!
You know? And that carries into religion too… thankfully we don’t have many christians blowing things up around here (every now and then it happens) but I mean… what if you just so happened to be raised by a bunch of KKK southern fundamentalists who like to blow up abortion clinics?
Well… this is why we QUESTION AUTHORITY, and this is why in order to think for ourselves, we have to.
Until we do so we are just reflections of our envrionment, of our teachers, parents, religion, and government, we are thinking how they think we should think, and we are so naive and young that we do not realize this… therefore in order to grow as a person you have to question your beliefs.
Really the best thing to do is listen to whatever the opposite of you is (like an athiest) says, and really CONSIDER what he is saying, don’t dismiss it as nonsense… really try and see where his reasoning is coming from, why he has it, understand his questions, try and answer them without thumping a holy book at him.
If you all wanted to know why I believe what I just said and I told you “because Timothy Leary told me to” you’d be mega pissed off and would think I’m an idiot, yet it’s okay to use the Bible to end any argument someone raises? NO, it isn’t, try and reason with them on their level, try and understand what they are asking, try and do something thinking outside the box, and outside the book… you know? I also realize that since most religions are largely based upon archaic text that you ARE going to have to rely on it some, but it does no good to try and hold a religious debate with someone who is not from your religion by quoting things from a book at him.
I could write a holy book that says “I am always right” and then whenever someone disagreed with me I’d direct them to the Book of Holy Reality, verse 1, chapter 1… but that doesn’t do anything at all.
So I mean… I can see the validity of CHRISTIANS debating what different Bible verses might mean, but when you are trying to prove the existence of God to someone (which you absolutely cannot do, so I don’t see why you’d try and do so) it doesn’t do a lot of good to quote a book.
Now if you were talking to someone about forgiveness, it’d be great to take a Jesus quote there, becuase that man knew a thing or two about forgiveness, he had some good teachings… and it doesn’t necessarily limit someone to adhering to your religion.
but anyway…
You have to learn empathy, you have to learn to understand other belief structures, understand why people think the way they do and believe the way they do… you have to listen to what they say, and consider it rationally, try and think of it from a non-biased viewpoint…
You don’t just say “no that isn’t true… such and such verse says so, argument over, I win.”
You know?
Hopefully this isn’t lost on some of you, this is my third question things rant and I haven’t seemed to get any responses to it…
at least a few people should understand what I’m talking about.
It’s kind of like that story of the 3 blind men who are trying to describe an elephant… one feels a trunk and says “surely an elephant is very long” and one feels it’s feet and says “an elephant is much like a tree” and well… things like that.
But ultimately, though they can speculate , they still DO NOT KNOW WHAT AN ELEPHANT IS ACTUALLY LIKE.
Much in the same way, we can speculate about God, but none of us really know… all religions are are peoples ways of trying to put the un-understandable into easy to relate to terminlogy.
I mean afterall, they call god HE… they speak of him as some sort of entity bound to a body…
I don’t see that at all… if there were a God I think there is way more to it than that… but it doesn’t matter what I think… the point is there are thousands of religions, constantly, all of them hoping to reach the same result, but all just human attempts at understanding the not understandable.
Think of God as water and religion as variously different shaped cups.
(i wish i came up with that but I got it from someone else)
Not that any of our ideas are really exclusive to us though.