Strange colored dots?!? ULTIMATE WILD method

I get whiteish-coloured shapes and lines when I close my eyes. They start off just zipping by and then some of them start to form more recognisable shapes (or I try to work out things they could be - like faces - in a similar way to what some people do with cloud shapes I guess). Then I start getting occasional, very brief flashes of places or things (ie totally realistic pictures rather than vague shape-formations). I tried controlling this last night - trying to choose what images I wanted - and managed to see clearly a landscape I’d chosen (the coast along the Great Ocean Road in Victoria, Australia). I actually managed to maintain it very clearly visually for a few seconds at a time (while I was still awake). Does anyone else get this? I guess I must be starting the process of falling asleep when this happens but I am still awake and totally aware that I’m lying in bed - and I’m just seeing these places rather than being physically in them like you are in a lucid dream.

I’m pretty sure these are like micro organisms or like dust/debris in your eyes. I get this exspecially when looking into the sky through a window. My uncle is a eye docter so I’ll ask him next time I see him :smile: I can kinda control them but only like if I look up really fast they all seem to go up, same with all directions, this is another thing that leads me to beleive they are accually ON your eye…

I only see purple and green dots as well. It’s kinda like looking at a multi-colored lava lamp. :content:

I’ve noticed these since I was really really young! If I look hard I can see them everywehre, but they are best in the dark or looking @ a white wall :smile: I’ll try this, I need some help with WILD

[color=green]That is very interesting indeed. I wish I could do that…maybe I can .Only time will tell I guess.[/color]

Did somebody mention pressure on the eyes?I never get tunnels when I put pressure on my shut eyes, but i see emerging white clouds, a very strange shade of white, the clouds keep appearing and overlapping each other.

Maybe I might try sleeping flat with my eyes lightly pressing against a pillow or something, these clouds really caught my attention every time!

don’t know if this always works, but if you spend some time outdoors or at least in a bright room, then go in totally dark room, I get it even with eyes open. tiredness might have something to do with it

how about the colors that appears after staring at strong sunlight?I remember seeing the color even when i close my eyes,it is usually a bright green.

Pilot: for what you have mentioned…I think i have got similar symptoms before, but the room i am in is not totally dark, it is just dim compared to the outside

I used to do that a lot! I’d get the feeling of white-ish/gray-ish/brown-ish clouds that formed patterns and kept overlapping eachother, and way down under them a darker pattern, like a city. I’d always try to get to that ‘city’ but pressing my eyeballs hurt…

Dots flashing in front of your eyes when you look away from bright light has more to do with either the adjustment of your pupil width (your iris muscles pull too fast, I think), or after-colours of what you were looking at (like looking at bright red, looking away, then seeing a green spot).

Either way… I always thought the dots were just the cells floating in front of your eyes? After all your eyeballs are covering with fluid or jelly-ish protective stuff or whatever. They’re different from hypnogogic imagery though… because those images don’t physically appear in front of your eyes? It’s difficult to explain, but I know the difference. I’ve come a bit further lately and start to notice when I’m falling asleep and having the imagery, and it’s like my brain is seeing them, not my eyes specifically. I don’t see the images yet I perceive them. It’s only when I awake from a dream or nightmare suddenly, I still see the images floating in my vision… and I can also manipulate those a few seconds right after I wake up, just by thought. So I don’t think the dots and the HI are connected

does a little eyeball text Oh, and apparently if I press them too long I start seeing veins. I figure that’s bloodveins or nerve endings… something. Weird.

Waw ! I just come across this post, and I find it very interesting !
It’s about phosphenes ( little coloured dots you see when closing your eyes ) and the way you can use them to WILD. In resume, it seems that concentrating on phosphenes or changing their colour can be useful for WILD.
I find it interesting cause I’ve already red something like that in a book.
Some one got more information ?

The “dots” are kind of like a speckled, textured background, right? I want to know if I am seeing the same thing as other “dot” seers. I’ll work on trying to change the color tonight, too (along with meditating first, then a little bit of MILD) - see what comes of it.

I know exactly what you guys are talking about. I see these dots/static even when all the lights are on. But don’t really notice them like that unless I think about it. When it’s dark I see the dot things do all kinds of shit, like make shapes and such. And theirs always tons of them. Sometimes so thick it makes it hard to see things properly. I’ve seen all my life. I’ll have to try useing them to help me become lucid.

I get the same thing the little dots and the swooping colours, I used to put pressure on my eyes gto get them a lot when I was a younger kid, I liked the way that it looked. Everyone that I know did the same thing or knew exactly what I was talking about.

I did a brief search on phosphenes and found this:

Phosphenes are signals from the neurons of the retina to the visual cortex of the brain which are interpreted as lights and visual patterns but not caused by visual light. They can beproduced by a variety of things, including pressure to the eyeball and, less commonly, various diseases of the retina and nerves.

Just thought I would pass on what I had found.

ypm.

Most of times it’s speckled and rather fuzzy, and there can be brighter and less fuzzy coloured points somewhere.
Sometimes it’s textured, and it can even be a complex and repetitive texture like an Indian carpet. It’s rare.
Sometimes, it has a repetitive move, by instance a circular move.

In my opinion, only the first case are true [color=orange]phosphenes[/color]. Other cases seems to be more elaborated visions, and must be related with sophiscicated work of the brain.

Anyone else care to comment? I find this rather interesting, but have yet to see such dots.

Some recent questions about controlling phosphens have been splitted into the “Controlling phosphenes” thread

Oh! Oh! I know EXACTLY what you meant from that. EXACTLY. I get that too when I look at the sky, usually through a window like a car window, but not always.

The other things are when you scrunch your eyes shut in a dark room and you see random evolving patterns… well thats what happens to me…

Dude, that’s so fucking great, thanks for that method, I see these dots all the time, they even go on my nerves, it seems perfect for me! Wow, this is awesome, I’m gonna try it. Genious. :content:

Yes indeed, these things are not phosphenes. Darker lines are cells debris within the eye vitreous. They are called floaters, muscae volitantes or myodesopsia. I don’t know what are little shiny moving dots which you can see when you look at the sky but they are probably living cells within the eye.

I can see a purple area that has a shape of a triangle that is going smaller and around this area i can see bigger green coloured triangle that later is smaller and smaller, then comes purple and it happens all again :happy:

I must try this technique, exciting idea

Gonzo, all of my phosphenes are green and purple. And they are usually repeating patterns too.