That’s what I’ve been doing too, kinda. Imagining I’m in my dream body until I actually forget about my physical body and AM in my dream body. If you do this at the right time after sleeping a few hours you’ll start to feel things. You’ll imagine you are rubbing your hands and it will start to feel real. From there it’s a lot easier to get into the dream because of that. SO I say just keep trying
I think these are the most important points in our journey, when we learn from ourselves and our experiences!
Hey Don Anonymous! I think you’re getting really close Next time you see something like the dot, focus on it just watch it. Maybe it’s best if you let the dream come to you, instead of forcing it to come to you. Then once you are in the dream you can travel to Eden Praries
Keep trying hard! Don’t give up!
I know you can do it!
People… I’m shocked… this morning, on 21.July.2010 I had a LD !!!
I woke up at 8 o’clock in the morning and couldn’t remember what I dreamed. I was like “Huh… another day when I can’t remember anything of my dreams…”. I went back to sleep. I woke up at 10 AM… in this time (2 hours) I had a LD .
But it was an ugly LD, might I say… it was night and I tried as hard as I could to make it day and to find myself in a rich town-like area… I spend the whole LD trying to do that: rubbing hands, shouting etc. - nothing.
If you want to hear (read) the whole experience, click on the hidden message. I copyed word by word what I wrote in my DD.
[spoiler]It was day - about 8 AM. I rolled over and found a good, comfy position. I felt like my left cheek was shaking. I was afraid and opened my eyes. I took a deep breath and got tid of the SP. My SP’s aren’t that strong. The sensation came back again and this time I followed it.
I landed up in the fornt of a window. It was the window of my house, the window of my living room. It was night. I flew right away through the window. I tried to make myself appear in this “Eden Prairie” place. The harder I tried the more nothing happened. I spend my whole LD trying to get to the wanted place. I flew around - I ahd no problems with that. I tried to think about how to make night into day and how to change the area into a richer and town-like area. It seemed that I was in a villadge.
Suddently I felt like the dream would fade away. I heard a this alarm sound. I was flying when this happened and as soon as I heard the alarm sound, I fell down and couldn’t fly anymore. I woke up.[/spoiler]
Please help ! I really need some good advises on how to make myself appear where I want to…
id just like to clear up some things on O.B.E.'s
if your into spiritual things, this is fine, its personal belief, to each their own.
i just want to say that O.B.E.'s have little to nothing to do with soul projection, astral projection, or anything of the nature.
early shamans and monks believed that through ritualistic chants and music, they could send the target being into a trance to send them to speak with the ancestors to find some answer to their troubles.
I’ve had O.B.E.'s before, and their nothing like this, which makes me think they triggered nothing but dreams and the people the target being spoke to was a dream/spirit guide to give them the answer they need.
an O.B.E. is nothing but a dream that feels so realistic, its just as real as you reading this now, and its just as real as everything that has ever happened in your entire life.
like a lucid dream on steroids.
and btw, WILD is one of the best techniques to have O.B.E.'s in, so i wouldn’t keep using it if you still don’t want to have O.B.E.'s.
WILD ? Who saied I practice WILD ? Perhaps I do without knowing it Anywyas, I asked a proffesionist about OBE’s and I’m still waiting this answer… There’s another thread about OBE’s I opened but didn’t get any good answer.
I just read ToxyChor’s interesting tips on how to controll your LD’s better in a passive way. Here is what I read.
Now, what gadged could I use to go to the desired placed if that would happen again ? A teleproting mashine would be too big… I could catch the train, but how to get there ? Or even better, my car… but how to spawn it ?! And what object could I use to transform day into night and night into day, and mornign into evening and evening into morning ?
Or should I say to myself something like “Oh, I remember, I put it in the box yesterday…” But how in the world should I spawn a box ?
I feel the same!
Especially when I go to bed and I try MILD and I lay in slightly uncomfortable position (on my back with hand laid down along the body)
I feel heat, little vibrations in my fingers and I feel how I’m slowly falling asleep which may be good start to LD but it feels so weird for that I suddenly star thinking about my physical body and return to waking state…
Also, sometimes I wake up during night, I feel incredible vibrations, I’m shaking and I feel how I’m falling asleep very very fast, but I always have the urge to ressist it and stay awake for a while. Once it fades away I fall asleep again.
I’m very scared of this feeling, even that I know it led me to wonderful LD once.
Well Don, here’s the main idea: if you had the idea to do it, you’ve probably seen it being done somewhere else. Our minds work that way, we reason by schemas. And by using the schemas, we better accommodate the dream flow, and let us control it easily and smoothly.
Now think: you want to go from place A to place B, now where have you seen a gadget that would work in the exact way you want? If you long for it, it means you already have an idea of what it should work and look like, so it’s just up to you to fill out the details maybe it’s a flying broom, maybe a portal gun, or something much more original, that’s entirely up to you
Or how in the world would you summon a cardboard box? Doesn’t Solid Snake just pull it out of his inventory, like that? You could do the same Remember that your only limit is your imagination. It should be easy if you keep that in mind.
First off, congrats with your LD! I also had a LD, around 11am- 2:30pm about a village . I know how it feels, when things don’t seem to work.I agree on what TosxyChor said. Really you have to use more of your head. Here is an example. One time I was in an LD and I tried to float upwards passing through the ceiling. It was actually really hard at first, I was trying to push myself through it and that didn’t work. Then I tried again but this time I imagined the ceiling not being solid.
You have to be absolutely sure that it is a dream. I believe any doubts will interfere with your attempts at whatever you are trying to do. keep trying!
Well ofcourse it is a dream… I think you ment not to be aware it is a dream, you ment to be aware that you can do whatever you want in your dream, right ?
Kinda hard… Last night (the night after I had the LD) was one of the worst nights I ever had. I fell asleep for about 15 minutes then I woke up. I rolled over and slept again for 15 minutes. Then I woke up. And this routine happend for the whole night… I think I had thousands of dreams during those 15 minutes, and I don’t remember any of them… I only have tiny flashbacks. But that’s not the point… the point is that I couldn’t fall asleep for at least two whole hours… This morning I was sooo tired… anyways, now I’m better.
And I think the LD part was a WILD… I made WILD without knowing it or witout wanting to
Err…, well just make sure you understand that you are dreaming and that ANYTHING is possible from that point on.
It sucks how you couldn’t fall asleep peacefully . Same thing happen to me last night, I couldn’t sleep for some reason…I was so tired, felt all dizzy . Hahah I remember in my dream I felt dizzy as well and once I woke up.
He he . Oh, btw. I think I had a FLD last night. I can only remember that I got lucid (or seemed to get lucid) in the dream, but I got carried away by the dream and it ended up a ND…
But, I recalled saying to me what ToxyChor said in his/her guide. To imagine the LD is RL and to treat it like that. But still it ended up a ND
Ok, all these nights I’ve been trying to get exhausted and go to bed in hope the pulling sensation / travellin feeling comes back and I will follow it to end up in a LD. People, what’s happening ?!?! When I posted every night here every night I felt that thing. Even thaught I did the same thing that feeling won’t show up again. That’s why I couldn’t sleep (for e.g.) last night for 3 hours. I’ve rolled over a thousand times, that’s true, but still that feeling wouldn’t come !
I had some vivid (not very) ND’s… but what about that travellign feeling ?! I’m really stressed out ! Why using the same technique about a week ago it worked and now it doesn’t anymore ?!
Alright, Alright, Don'tcry; i'll tell you! (LOL) but really, I had the same thing. You feel your body is travling, when your fully Lucid, and now your going into the dream world. Been there, done that. :smile: You Finally want the answer why your not getting that travling feeling when you sleep? here it is: it seems to me, your forcing yourself to let your mind travel to the Lucid State, your thinking about it TOO much, and your mind is not requesting it. Lucid/travling it automacitly everynight. Your focusing on it way too much ! I don't have that travling feeling everynight. That travling feeling, it's just one way of your body saying " Im fully loaded and Im about to go into the dream world" You don't have to have this feeling everynight ( It's also normal even if you dont have it!) The other way is, just sleep. it's that simple, when your mind fully sleeps, then your dream state will come on. For me, I just fall into a deep sleep, and without me think about the travling, or anything my dream state sneeks up on me, and Im there. So, it's natural if you don't get this feeling everynight or dont. So, Let your body go with the flow, and don't think about it! It goes by itself! (If you get it), just relax your mind, your body, and you'll be in the dream state! :wiske: So dont be sad if you dont get it. it's natural, it's not your only source saying your lucid. Hope I helped! DId I slove your problem? :smile:
Ok, say I applied what you saied, DreamGirl. But it’s awfull hard not to think about that feeling. I must daydream so I forget about it. But last night I was so very tired that I fell asleep unconciously. But hey ! I had a very vivid dream which I could recall, which makes me very happy because usually I can’t remember dreams that well
I’ll try that every night, see if it works and I’ll post here my progress (if any) of each night.
Hey Don, try not to get too stressed over it For two reasons, mainly.
One, because these things are a little crazy. One day you’ll have excellent recall and the next nothing at all. It’s kinda random at times and depends on many things like mindset and stressful situations IWL. Sometimes my LD’s come and go. I’ll have a couple weeks where I think “hey, I’m actually getting better!” and then my recall goes away (ok, waking up early helps kill recall ) my point is progress isn’t stable and linear for anyone. But you are getting better. If you practice and are patient, progress is inevitable
And two, because frustration and stress have bad results on dreams. If you get frustrated about not getting lucid you’ll get even fewer LD’s. Trust me. It took me a few months to really learn that lesson Because you’ll associate frustration with dreams and that doesn’t help.
Someone said once in an old post (I really wish I could remember who it was, it’s so brilliant) that with LD’s you have to put in effort but you can’t force it. It’s like playing the flute, blowing harder doesn’t make you play better, only gets you light headed
Lucdi dreaming is a very mental skill (duh) so it really helps to have a peaceful, calm, focused and positive attitude and mindset towards it.
Thanks mattias ! But I know my problems already - I focus to much on LD’ing and personally I am a negativist .
Now, last night I couldn’t sleep for about 3 hours or more. I just had to roll over because my ears and arms hurt awful. But, as I was lying there in bed, that traveling feeling came all of a sudden (snap) and it was so strong that it scared me and I opened my eyes and ruined everything. Usually those feelings begin “smoothly” for me. But this time, just like that, this feeling appeared. It was sooo strong that it freaked me out . It was like when you want to beat eggs with the mixer, but you put the mixer not on the level for eggs, but on the level for dough (which is a lot stronger).
You get it what I mean, right ? And, btw, it was one of those awfull sleepless nights. Nut it wasn’t because I wasn’t tired. I was so very tired and well for sleep. But I guess the thinking about LD’ing and the over-focusing on that feeling didn’t let me sleep.
Next time you see something like the dot, focus on it just watch it. Maybe it’s best if you let the dream come to you, instead of forcing it to come to you. Then once you are in the dream you can travel to Eden Praries 
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Anywyas, I asked a proffesionist about OBE’s and I’m still waiting this answer… There’s another thread about OBE’s I opened but didn’t get any good answer.
. I know how it feels, when things don’t seem to work.I agree on what TosxyChor said. Really you have to use more of your head. Here is an example. One time I was in an LD and I tried to float upwards passing through the ceiling. It was actually really hard at first, I was trying to push myself through it and that didn’t work. Then I tried again but this time I imagined the ceiling not being solid.
This morning I was sooo tired… anyways, now I’m better.
. Same thing happen to me last night, I couldn’t sleep for some reason…I was so tired, felt all dizzy . Hahah I remember in my dream I felt dizzy as well and once I woke up. 
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Thank you, Im so touched! Check out my Dream Journal ! I just posted one post on it so far. I’l do the rest of my dreams when I have time. 
Because you’ll associate frustration with dreams and that doesn’t help.
. It was like when you want to beat eggs with the mixer, but you put the mixer not on the level for eggs, but on the level for dough (which is a lot stronger).