Strange thoughts... Or something

This is hard to explain, but today I have been having like glipses of thoughts feelings or visions. It feels like when your recalling dream fragments, or Dijivue, but its not Its diffrent. They dont last long enough for me to make sence of them, or find out where there coming from, but its been happning all day. Its very frustrating to try to explain what it is. So Im not expecting you to understand what Im talking about. GRRRRR!

I have that to

for me it feels like my brain is getting a glimpse of the real truth on life and death and all the things we ponder over and before i can figure out the answers my mind overloads and closes the little window
i assume its because our minds cant handle so much truth

Well, you can barely assume it is the “Truth” in life, since you can never catch more than a glimpse of that…

I think I understand what you two are speaking about, and I must ask wether those “glimpses” come with a change of thinking: Like losing your train of thoughts for a moment, starting to think differently for a moment, a serious change of mood etc…

I think I know what you’re talking about. I sometimes get a strange feeling. The best description I can manage is “Oh my goodness. I’m alive! I exist!” I know that might seem strange, but that’s the best way I can think of to describe it. It’s like the fact that I exist exalts itself in my mind and for a few moments, I stop taking my existence for granted and look at it with clarity.

A couple of you have described what has happened to me twice, once in a dream and once while wide awake. In the dream I was at a party, everyone talking, general murmer. One man said something in a normal voice that silenced the whole room, because it was the truth (the big truth) but very short and to the point. This single short truth unlocked my understanding of everything, it was like awakening from a dream and remembering what was real. The truth was so overwelming my mind couldn’t even contain it and it actually caused an out of body experience. I was rising and looking at the earth from space, but as I turned to find where I was going, because I WAS leaving, my mind said “you can’t have that” and I was sitting bold upright in bed wondering what had just happened to me, and most of all if it was just dream stuff (makes sense in the dream, but not at all when you wake up), or whether it had really happpened. Because I can’t remember what was said, what the “truth was”.
For at least two weeks this kind of drove me crazy and then one day sitting in class wide awake paying no attention to the teacher, I had what was said on the tip of my tongue, and then (wide awake this time) remembered what was said, this TRUTH. The experience was a total instant replay, and ultimately my mind again saying “you can’t have that”.
All I can say for sure about the experience is that life is not what we think it is, and that I think we may be dreaming this, and that we have no idea who or what we really are. I think if we knew the TRUTH we wouldn’t stay here a moment longer…I’m pretty sure you couldn’t. I kind of relate it to seeing the face of God killing you, only death would result from recognition of who he is, who we are, and we would depart with him.
I never even tried to remember what was said in this dream again, point taken, can’t have it. At least not yet, but I think we will, and I think we are in for a very pleasent surprise. For those moments I understood/remembered/knew everything there was to know…and it wasn’t at all like this life. I suspect God needs to know what we will do with power. Even the poorest man on earth has alot of power to do good or evil. Maybe when he made us in his own image he didn’t cut any corners.

This is the BIGGEST TRUTH. Im too young to say it from my experiences, but we are much more complicated than animals.
Are we so complicated, to exist even after death? I believe so, but i cant prove it, cause its imposible.

About God? Christian Church says, than God is giving us a hapiness forever for the praying and believing in him and says also, than God punish us for the evil. For me its a noncence, because Bible says, than God forgive anything… :smile:

I often get something like this, feelings of something just beyond my grasp. It is indeed very hard to explain but I’ve come to embrace these feelings. Sometimes they make me worry about my mental health but what is the point of living if we aren’t true to ourselves?

Good it sounds like you all know what I mean. A better way to descripe it would be like when you first wake from a dream, or HI and it fades as you are trying to recall what it was untill its completly gone. The only diffrents is its happening while Im awake. Its not happening now, but man the day it was happening it was happen allmost every hour.

I wonder what would have happened if you wrote it down as you remembered it? Or could it not be explained in words? Though it was said out-loud by a man in your dream, so maybe you could put it into words?

Since the experience caused an immediate out of body experience I wouldn’t have been able to write it down. But if it were written I suspect anyone reading it would have the same experience…maybe they wouldn’t come back. I heard a good quote recently. “we are not physical beings trying to be spiritual, but spiritual beings trying to be physical”

find and watch the movie “what the bleep do we know”. After my experience the movie the matrix also kind of struck a chord.

Ian 1… I know what you mean when you say… “Oh my god Im alive”, and its somewhat shocking to realize it. I have that feeling allso, and sometimes when I do thinks like writing it blows my mind, when I think about words, and language, or just communication, or the fact that we have other animals living on our planet. It freaks me out somtimes. Espesaly when Im driffting off to sleep, and I think about excistance it throws me in a state of shock. It weird. Maybie Its schizophrania. LOL

are you looking for explanations or simply if people know what you are talking about? where are you going with this?

From your first description that happened to me for a while in this situation.
I was experimenting on how much I can remember in dreams, I had grabbed many photo albums and tied it shut, for an entire week I didn’t look at it, and awaited for a night to slip into a Lucid dream, the experiment was effective, I could recall what outfits I wore on certian days and what I had done with verivication that proved it was true, but for the following week I often snapped out of reality for a second and experienced fragments of memories for a mere second, when driving I would have a glimps I was in Fort Collins, while working on a homework assingment I would flash to writing about desert animals back in sixth grade.

My point is that when you say you have glimpses or feelings or visions it could just be fragments of memory spontainiously firing, sorry to all those who are saying those are glimpses of a great truth. Thats my view on it I hope that helps or not.

Am I looking for and explanation for my experience? No, I don’t expect anyone still in the physical relm to have one. Yes, I was wondering if anyone else here might have had the same experience. Mine happened 35 years ago and since then I have met only two others who have. One was my wife, and the other was a quantum physisist that I talked to on the radio show Coast to Coast.
In answer to it being a random firing of synapses causing some memory, this was more like a very small key turning on a niagra falls of understanding. The word epiphany doesn’t even come close to describing the experience. It overloaded my mind in a fraction of a second, I left my body, I believe I was leaving this existence.I understood everything for those fleeting moments only to come back without the key, but a certain knowledge that our “reality” is not real. I know that we were somewhere else before we came here to this place and we have forgotten who we are and where we came from. Wish I could tell you why we are here, but I know I’m not afraid to leave. I’m kind of looking forward to it when I’m done with whatever I’m here for.
One more thing, the bible says almost nothing about what heaven is like. The quote from Jesus was “eyes have not seen, nor ears heard, nor mind conceived what my father has in store for you”. That’s a loose quote, but pretty much the theme of any discussion of heaven in the bible. As for there being no more pain or sorrow, pain is a byproduct of a physical body, and sorrow pretty much a byproduct of what we do to each other. With the budget that all the countries on earth spend on their militaries we could feed, cloth, house and educate every human now on earth, and that’s not speculation, I’ve seen the math done. The only thing on this earth that will last is us, so treat your family, friends, and neighbors like they are the only thing that really matters, because they are.
And yes colette, there is a greater truth.

I dunno. I read a while back about this entheogenic drug that causes people to have hallucinations. And two commonly shared hallucination are gods and aliens. One example was a person who saw two aliens working on the switchboard that controls our whole reality. Another was a guy who saw a malevolent demiurge type character. So I have a feeling we’re probably just wired a certain way and things can trip those sorts of thoughts about the nature of reality, rather than there actually being aliens AND Gods and a drug that allows you to see one or the other.

Having said that, I do believe in God, so who knows… maybe there are aliens too…