subconsciously interpreting outside influences

the Stuff Dreams are made of...
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you know when the radio’s playing while you sleep and a couple of the songs get incorporated into your dream? or the alarm clock goes off and doesn’t wake you but somehow gets incorporated into your dream?

or when you speak to a dream character and they give you an idea that you would have never ever think of in WL. its like its not of your own thinking?

well i propose a new theory related to dreaming.

When we are asleep anything being transmitted on any frequency/wave length gets incorporated into your dream. notice i said any frequency, not just sound waves… thoughts also produce a particular frequency wavelength which perhaps the subconscious can interpret. So all these idea’s from DC’s, all this information being provided in dreams… it is not only sound that gets incorporated but also other peoples thoughts that are being transmitted and interpreted subconsciously while we sleep.

What do you think?

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I dont see any scientific basis for that so i cant accept that it works.

However it is quite similar to a theory i saw postulated with regard to how shared dreaming might work: I dont know the details but it involves a concept known as the Astral Plane. Perhaps someone else could explain that more?

Im quite sure that there are no waves that science has found that go between people like that. If instead, people communicated in a way that tranceded space ie another dimension then your theory could work. Notice how this dimension thing sounds quite similar to the Astral Plane?

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well apparently there are waves in the highest ultraviolet light waves that they can’t see or record…

when i hear people/scientists talk about anti-matter, sub-space, astral plane, etc. i think its all just trying to describe the same thing. But my theory wasn’t really suggesting that these vibrations of sound and thought need an astral plane to travel on. vibrations of thought being broadcasted out to the world may not have been detected yet, but if you have seen “The Secret” documentary you will know what i mean. According to that video, everything creates a vibration even thought (seeing as energy vibrates and the entire universe is made of energy it kind of makes sense).

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Well, wouldn’t that mean that people who sleep in the same room, in the same bed, should have the same dreams then? If they’re influenced by the same things… Maybe their subconscious would interpret things differently, but I’m sure there’s a limit to how differently it would be interpreted.

And, if their thoughtwaves are affecting each other’s dreams, wouldn’t the dreams become even more similar?

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First of all, antimatter is blatantly nothing like the Astral plane, but thats not really important to this discussion.

What i think is a much more likely theory than yours, eonnn, is this:

The mind gathers lots of information during the days, and cannot process it all fully, as the subconcious is not in action and the rest of the mind is too busy doing too many other things at once, (talking, moving, smaller movements, balance, thinking other stuff, seeing, hearing, recognising faces, planning and excecuting plans of action etc, many of which have to happen simultaneously).

When you are asleep, you do not have to do many, or any, of the above list, and whats more, your subconcious, which thinks more clearly and quickly, is active. This means that you can reach spontaneous, and accurate interpretations of things that would baffle you otherwise. It is no surprise that many geniuses have had good thoughts in their sleep.

Thoughts from DCs (which, unless in a shared dream), are a creation of your subconcious, are just your subconcious’ way of telling you the thoughts that it produces. unfortunately, your subconcious does not often make there interpretations clear. lucid dreaming can be used to bring your concious mind into all this, so you can obtain much clearer answers.

And that was gonna be a short post lol, but i think it makes my idea very clear. isnt there a theory of lucidity forum for this?

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Anti-matter is important to any discussion! :nerd_face:
What you say about vibrations is scientificly acepted Its know as M Theory
All hail M Theory :bow:
Well it talks about this Different kind of “Strings” that the universe is made of from just string looking strings to donut looking strings to arc stings. And they all vibrate to make the universe work. Really interesting 3 hours.
I am such a geek! :cry:
Ups almost forgot i had this dream today when the trash truck came and thats when i in my drems saw a train with the same sound.

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do you know where antimatter came from? do you know where they got the idea for it?

scientists found that in order for the planets to revolve around the sun as they do it doesn’t work unless you introduce ‘anti-matter’. which is nothing more than a label for something that can not be seen nor detected. They suggested that this accounted for 96% of the ‘missing’ universe… now they are saying that it only accounts for 70% and the rest is some other new made up label called neutralino’s. They are just trying to explain things in scientific terms without having to use quantum physics to explain it, and seeing as they have been wrong once already about this, they could easily be wrong about everything. I think this 96% of unexplainable invisible matter in the universe is just a combination of positive, neutral & negative energy - the rest is matter.

Not that it matters, lol, as i said before… antimatter or a spiritual plane doesn’t really need to exist for my theory to work. A thought creates a vibration just like making a sound would through your vocal cords. When you touch something you get a sensation from all the vibrating atoms. When you hear something your mind is interpreting vibrations. etc etc. All i’m suggesting here is that perhaps its more than just sound that can be incorporated into our dreams.

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[color=darkblue]Do you have anything to back this up with? If they cannot be seen or recorded, how were they discovered?

Isn’t it just more likely that when we dream of something we don’t think we know about- we are merely tapping into a vast SC resource, that we are not aware of during the day but that nonetheless, picks up a vast amount of information from our surrounding environment? [/color]

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Eonnn, I think you are getting antimatter and darkmatter mixed up here. They have proven that antimatter exists, and can create it in small quantities. It is darkmatter that they made up to fill in the gaps in their measurments and theorys about how the universe works. There are some experiments planed now that could prove, or disprove darkmatter, but it seems to fit well with everything they know now. That does not mean that it is true, just that it fits well with what they now know. As you said, they have been wrong befor, and new information pops up every day.
don

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infinity - i watched a UFO documentary that discussed UV light and the scientist on it said something like “we know these higher waves exist but we can’t record them, which is why these UFO’s go by undetected”. You could very well be right about the SC resource thing though.

Don - the doco i watched recently said “antimatter has not been detected yet”, i know I have heard of a place in america or somewhere that has a 7mile circular sort of travel tube where they collide particles to produce small quanities of anti-matter, and since it was a recent doco it makes me wonder if maybe they meant darkmatter not anti-matter. Or perhaps, this 7mile chamber isn’t really creating anti-matter, its creating dark-matter. To me, it seems like they’re just putting labels on something they dont know too much about.

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I actually had a conversation with a mate last night talking about this. I think as Eonnn said that the subconscious is working clearer and better in sleep, so the Law of attraction would work better in sleep, and basically work on higher level, creating the reality outside with the influence from the inside. ‘Thoughts create reality’ and then it would be obvious that when we sleep we could use LOA better.

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right this antimatter stuff i can set you right on; its what im studying atm for my A level physics:

Antimatter is normal matter with the charge reversed. like a proton is positive, and an antiproton is negetive. An electron is negetive, and so an antielectron (a positron) is positive.

neutrinos (not neutralinos lol) are very small insignificant particles.

dark matter is something made up to make calculations work and has not been observed in any experiment. dark energy is similarly merely a conjecture

Hopefully that should dispell antimatter from this discussion so we can move back onto topic. And now you all know more physics too [emoticon].

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Eonnn, I think that is getting the cart befor the horse to start talking about how antimater, darkmater or anything else can be the cause of this. there is just too much that is not know about thoes things.
On the other hand, we can talk about what we experance. there is a lot of people expeanceing things that could be evidence that there are connections between people that we can’t see or feel most of the time. I do think that there is a lot going on that is not explaned by science. It could be that we can be more aware of the connections while we sleep, and that we can possibly get information through these connections. I don’t think that it is related to radio waves, or any other type of waves that we use in modern technology, but I do think that something is there. Maybe when you are sleeping you just happen to connect with someone somewhere who is listening to a radio. It could be like dream recall, if you are not paying attention to it you forget it, or don’t even notice that it is happening. That could explain why two people in the same room have different dreams.
Your SC also has a lot of influence on your dreams, so maybe you don’t notice this because your SC has other things that it thinks are more important. I think that there are lots of things going on in our dreams every night. I think that is why some people have more problems with LD’ing then others, they just have more stuff that their SC thinks is more important then LD’ing right now.
don

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I had an afternoon dream the other day.my brother was playing ball in the yard,while I was sleeping in my livingroom.I dreamed my brother and I were playing ball with my dogs,at the same time they were playing outside.I think the barking of my dogs was incorperated into my dream,and this caused me to have this dream.so I guess souds or events going on while you are sleeping can influence yourdream.

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I think thats a great theory. I use to fall asleep with my headphones on ( baddd habbit), and one week i woke up to the same exact song playing. It was really strange and freaked me out after the 3rd night. So i just tried not to fall asleep with them on anymore. I have a feeling DC played a role in this becuase that is too much of a coincidence.

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Yay now we have added both Dark Matter and Anti matter into our Discusion. :happy:
The tube thingy is called a Particle Accelerator.