So true! that blows my mind too.
Yea verily
I’ve been checking out different views on the afterlife (religious and scientific), and I just hope everyone gets what they hope for. There’re so many ideas on what the afterlife may be like, that’s why I’ve really gotten away from religion and into things like the Omega Point theory, Quantum Suicide, and Lucid Afterlife, because then EVERYBODY’s right, for a change
And like I said, I’m sure I could keep myself occupied for an eternity…several eons, at least Actually, I’ve already planned out what I was going to do:
Use eternity to experience everything there is, was, and ever will be–and that, my friends, will no doubtedly take up an eternity (definition of infinity…infinite possibilities, infinite experiences). Of course, I have become so obsessed at to actually deatil and organize it–who knows what the first thing I’d do would be
I definitely would want an entourage with me, though–end up lost on the far side of the galaxy…yeah.
And I’d definitely want to use eternity to–in addition to learning infinitely everything (omniscience)–perfect infinitely every ability/skill/activity.
To bad we can’t just die and see what’s on the other side, then come back with irrefutable proof of whatever’s over there…or not over there
Then again, conclusion would only be the bane of that philosophy
What a mantra!
To not believe in an afterlife I don’t think is pessimistic on it’s own, It’s just materialistic. I don’t see any strong indication that there is an afterlife so I wont believe in it until I do. But since it’s the sort of thing we just don’t know as living humans I’m not gonna close the door on the possibility just yet. It does seem more fun than simply ceasing to exist.
As for boredom I don’t think it will be an issue. Boredom seems to come not out of inactivity but out of attachment to activity. If you’re gonna be conscious forever you’ll eventually be content with whatever activity there is. Besides, You could be in such a state of mind where you are in constant bliss, neverending happiness independent of circumstance. Mental states can be far more interesting than events.
I’ve had so many paranormal experiences like AP’s, OBE’s, ghosts/orbs, spiritual sensations like chakra’s and feeling energy and things like that which has lead me to believe there must be something more than this. So for me its not a question of is there an afterlife, its a question of what would the afterlife be like.
that’s cause there is more than this. People will still choose not to believe but that doesn’t make it false.
I think for some people it’s easier for them to deny these types of things(lifeafter death, ghosts, hell even LD’S!) than actually believe and especially encounter.
It rips the lid off any religion, so I am guessing that’s why a fair majority choose to deny than accept.
for religion calss we had to look up this saint (having a quiz on her, because he HAS to give SOME grades )
She had claimed to visit Purgatory and such
Also, there is that guy who claimed to experience heaven and hell.
I was thinking about this
In Christian Terms (or any religion for that matter):
Maybe That’s the beauty of it. It can be a lucid dream. Maybe for devout christians it’s a heaven with all poffy clouds and bliss.
Maybe for the Norse, they wen’t to Valhalla.
Maybe for people such as some of us here, heaven is like a lucid dream
Maybe “Heaven” is subjective?
Or have we already gone over this?
Why would we all be born, live our lives, just to die? I think our lives when we die have something more to it…
also just saying, I don’t think so many people could lie about god in the bible… that would be so many lies… and the bible is huge…
just my view though.
I get so annoyed with those kind of people… the ones who are so close-minded they won’t even entertain the notion for one second, they don’t even want to discuss it just for fun, its like they’ve written it off as impossible, they’ve already made up their mind and thats all that matters to them. So the moment you start talking about it they write you off as crazy and completely dismiss you. Even with something that’s proven to exist like Lucid Dreaming, they won’t believe it till it happens to them, which it never will because you need to open yourself up to possibilities to be able to receive them - which is something they will never do. It really grinds my gears… i have 3 brothers who are all extremely close-minded and the moment i start talking about lucid dreaming or something of the like they try to make a mockery of me without even taking a glance at the facts.
Yeah it can be frustrating sometimes, but the important thing is that you and I and everyone else here do know or will know. sure they may have lots of sex when they first LD lol but with age and experience they will want more out of it and at some point they reach the crossroads where they want/need to seek higher truths(meaning of current life, God, past life regression, etc) and that’s when the lightbulb starts blinking and they start asking deeper and deeper questions and the nature of existance pours out.
the people that walk around day to day and never think about LD’s or any other “supernatural” events. I feel sorry for them, cause they probably could be way more happier, but it’s their choice, not mine. So i’d keep things to yourself, cause people are scared to know or even think about death, heaven, something beyond their understanding, etc.
Just enjoy life and not be scared about death like everyone else and you can’t go wrong.
I sorta agree with you,a nd i sorta don’t agree with you. I will never ever believe in 100% of an afterlife, even with what i have seen…like spirits and all those stories, and doctors believing there is more when you die. I wanna believe when we die we are truely not dead, or life is pointless and a big mistake, what about babys that die minutes after their born? they just…vanish and never to be heard from again? that’s so cruel and unfair and reason why i wanna believe there really is more. There have been alot of tests and alot of personal proof of life after death and videod documentaries with those scientists who believe and do things that you just cannot explain…like kill someone for an hour draining their blood and bringing them back to life, while they are out of their bodies and see like heaven or atleast people they know, and happy music, sensations you cannot feel as a human being, etc.
There has to be more to life…there just HAS to. I’ll always believe there is a chance nothing happens, but i’ll never rule out that stuff happen even though i can’t 100% believe. There is just too much we do not understand about ourselves and faith is only good for so long before you start questioning because…well, you want answers.
Anyway it would be cool when you die and it’s a dream state. I read up on spiritual forums and they say you go in a “state of mind” whatever that means…kinda new at this stuff but i read LD stuff as part of this too. That would be cool to play god and create whatever and give it whatever traits and let it expierence whatever, which would mean we are their gods which would mean we were created by a person who died and thought of earth and this universe. Let’s hope he imagined other life in this universe and that we are not alone. I would bring my dog to my world and she would enjoy it, maybe she would create ehr own world…she is dead now, though. :*(
If this LD stuff is true when you die i will die of sheer excitement (no pun intended). I can create whatever i want, within law i presume…i’m sure there is some type of afterlife law you MUST obey. I’ll walk apon the world as a normal person and it will be me as an NHL hockey player, or a fantasy world with dragons, titans, minotaurs, war lords and other foul beasts but have heroes, beggers, kings, knights, jesters, law breakers, rebels and whatever else i want.
Maybe i’ll create an earth type world but with it like the 5th element kinda world or something with robots doing everything for everyone, but maybe i’ll start from scratch and watch them evolve from cavemen to the end of the world and see how far they evolved.
Maybe they were naked, the guy had a weird feeling down below, saw the naked female and her thing down below and said “maybe this fits in there”, and they went at it all night long like monkeys. What makes things more interesting to your question is…how did everything ELSE figure out how to do the same thing and create more animals, and stuff? maybe they all comingled and played “spin the caveman club”. Even the dinosaurs i’m sure did this to keep going and not go extinct. It’s a natural thing afterall.
Infact…how DID anything not human and not from the past get created? hmm??? say look at dogs…they aren’t human, so how did they get created too? cats? porcupines?bears?lions?etc.
Isn’t boredom a brain related thing? i’m sure we wont be bored because we would have nothing in our energies to be bored of, afterall we wont be human anymore. If we life stuff we will most liekly life it forever and never be bored because we don’t have the brain wanting to try new things. Sure, we would wanna try new things so we would leave the afterlife for a new life and expierence new things to bring with us to keep us with more and more things to do making boredom non existant. It’s like when people say time flys when you are busy, but time would always fly, we would always be busy, getting new things to expierence…notime for boredom when you can know everything you ever wanted to know in each and every life you have ever lived.
Missing my point >.<
Example, go up your family tree
If any of your ancestors did not have sex, or one of them died or something, you wouldn’t be here.
Think about it: people die every day. But lets say one of those people narrowly escaped death, and had kids.
1000 years from now (assuming we are still around) he could still have anscestors. But if he hadn’t narrowly escaped death none of them would have existed.
I mean, you having kids could have a profound effect on the future of the world down the line.
I don’t know, seems way too much for dumb luck, or being at the right (wrong?) place at the right (wrong?) time
i just watched that movie like two days ago!!! what a coincidence lol… i dont believe in heaven or hell tho… i think theres a reincartion thing
Wow im seeing some great idea’s from people here, you all have such creative and inspiring minds.
I dont really like the idea of reincarnation… you could end up being a fly that lives for like 2 days then gets squated. It would be good if you could choose what you want to be. I did put forward the idea that in this LD heaven if you got bored or whatever you could tell a dream guide that you wanted to reincarnate.
I’ve wondered about that too LucidFlanders… how exactly did we learn to recreate or to eat/drink? we just happened to find the right non-poisenous berry’s and decide to put them in our mouth? what about water? most water is contaminated with bacteria and needs to be boiled first, how did we even know where to put the water or that we even needed it!!! Imagine… the very first baby with no mother or father to take care of it… how the heck would it survive?! anyway im gettin off topic here and i think the point was more about you or me not being here if someone didn’t have sex 2000 years ago.
There are some strange things that happen when a person dies… at the moment of death, the person loses exactly 23 grams… supposebly its the spirit leaving the body.
There is also that new movie coming out called 23…
We dream for around a third of our lifetime, it cant be just for unwinding our minds… i think there’s more to it than that… like there are 2 realms… this one and the dream one. I know which one I would rather be in.
(off topic sorta) 23 came out a while ago. I was it, it was really cool. Very confusing until the end
I would rather be in the realm where my dear dog waits for me, even if it means giving up on a LD afterlife for a normal afterlife if that’s possible.
DUDE
this is one DEEP conversation
Isn’t it
I wouldn’t mind just drifting through the cosmos for eons (like Bender on Futurama–you know the episode “Godfellas”)…I could get A LOT of deep philosphical-type thinking done, see a lot of beautiful nebulas, and maybe even go insane because of the extreme isolation and create an entourage of imaginary friends eventually losing any final drops of sanity and succumbing to eternal boredom as we play “I-Spy” with the universe
My father told me once that if you take just a random place in the universe, chances are you won’t see any stars. Because they are too far away. Like that most places in the universe are like that. You could float around for a long time without seeing anything. But in a situation like that you are bound to start to hallucinate and live the inner life.