The Big Shared Dreaming Topic - Part III

I used to think it was impossible/somehow bound to science. I thought being right next to the person was a must.

I’ve had several of them and I’ve even had them without being anywhere near the person. I’ve been called by the people afterward, having instructed them to do so just to confirm it was really them. I wish I had a way to describe how to do it, but the ones that occur from a distance never happen just because I want them to happen or tell myself they’ll happen.

The one time I had one on command was falling asleep with a woman who I’d been enamored with for some time (no further details needed on that really). She was interested in the idea and we both fell asleep easily and without me trying one of the MILD techniques I tend to use. It was cool, but for some reason I just spent the entirety of the dream lifting weights, which resulted in me waking up sore.

The last part probably sounds way too out there for some people, but I heard on TV at some point that exercising in dreams can be up to %50 as effective as in real life.

I do believe in SD because my sister & I had one when we were childs. :smile: (She was 8 & I was 12 years old)

I was dreaming that we were riding a red car (a porsche) for the streets, It was dark & we were speaking about “work” and things. But— then things went strange… :neutral: the dream scene faded very slowly and I found that I was sitting in my bed speaking WITH MY SISTER, who was sitting on her bed, speaking to me with her eyes closed!
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I told her “I don’t want to scare you, but this that we were having was a dream”, she went “what?” & I touched her shoulder to help her to wake up. My sis opened her eyes and started to cry, she became very nervous & told me that it was the creepiest thing that happened to her… :neutral:

She still remembers this dream & gets unconfortable when I speak about the SD, but I found the subject very curious and I often annoy her with questions ha ha :cool:

Whereas I personally, currently, have no particular beliefs about what’s possible and what’s impossible in dreaming, I will say I had one dreaming experience about a year and a half ago that was very interesting, to say the least.

I dreamed, one night, that I was helping to adjust a very complicated shoulder harness on my friend who, in the dream, had a shoulder injury. She did not actually have the injury IRL. She said that she had almost the exact same dream that very night, stating that someone was helping place and adjust an external shoulder prosthesis for a shoulder injury. In the dream, she was complaining because she didn’t think she needed it, but whoever was helping her (she didn’t know who it was in the dream) insisted on it.

There was nothing that I can think of in the days preceding that night of dreaming that may have planted the suggestion in the dream. That doesn’t mean that there WAS nothing which may have planted the suggestion…it just means that I honestly can’t remember anything.

So, there it is. My only personal experience with the possibility of SD. Again, in my personal perspective, it neither proves or disproves it. It does underscore, however, how utterly strange dreaming can be, once one dives headlong into it. From where I’m standing…the stranger the better :peek: :eek: :tongue:

I have had Multiple Shared dreams with experienced advanced lucid dreamers. We use to do it years ago but my friends have moved on. We would often treat our dreams an ongoing storyline. I’m not good at getting and staying lucid but I was blessed to have friends who were, both had EXTREMELY advanced LD skills. They were lucid often nightly, They could change dreams at will.

Their secret seemed to be travelling to other peoples dreams by going through a door, opening a portal with music or going through a vortex. Each dreamer had their own way of changing dreams based on their own personal paradigms.

Sometimes they would have a dream with me in it and they would do something to me and the effects I remembered in later dreams. An example was that I had a dream girlfriend i kept dreaming she was kidnapped. and my friends would dream of rescuing her, sometimes with me tagging along and i would remember bits and pieces non lucid. Or I would dream she was sick, and they would come heal her in their dreams And later the same night I would remember her being better.

It is real guys.

Does these dreams have cycles?
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Does anyone have any theories as to how shared dreams can occur, with respect to consciousness? I am currently re-reading Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self by Robert Waggoner, and he has raised some fascinating ideas about a collective unconscious/awareness that “props up” lucid dreams, or is behind the dreams. If that is the case, I could see how shared dreams could be a thing. I haven’t personally given much thought to the idea of a collective unconsciousness, but I don’t see how shared dreams can occur otherwise. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

I am swayed towards the more ‘spiritual?’ telepathy / personal connection. So not a collective unconsciousness but pockets of it due to closeness?

I had two shared dreams I think , with my friend . Though he was better at getting lucid and I was non lucid both times . But I remembered both dreams after waking up.

Case 1

[spoiler]Before the super market . Again
Now it was daylight , the place was swarming with terrorists\guerillas
So I was like “lets screw somebody up”
I zoomed to the far away buildings’ there was somebody walking
I stretched my hands and started to shoot big fireballs
Meanwhile : my friend just walks on the street around that particular building, when suddenly a fireball almost toasts off his head and was like “WTF are you doing?!?! stop! its me!”
Ofc I didn’t know who it is , doesnt even heard his sound. I far firing, people were shooting like mad,
rpg etc flew. He jumps up after one of the buildings collapse and he still dont know what hit him.
Then he starts to jump towards me ,actually he jumps very big and flies towards me , I don’t care ,I just sending those majestic flames into his direction , I feel awesome, yeah.

Then He arrives, He’s just about to stop me , but he wakes up in that moment.
I’ve seen something nearing me , and before I’ve seen it , he dissappeared. [/spoiler]

Case 2

[spoiler]Another dream
Me and my present friends were grouping at a house. we were sitting around a wooden table .
Then I took a knife and stab the table , I had glasses on and I was in my rambo mood.
-“Guys, we got to do … something big.”
-“What do you mean?”
“-Something big …explosions , robbing ,beating ,anything…”
At this point my memory is foggy, in the end we agree of doing something
there is my drunkard friend too , he justs sits and do nothing more than drinking
-“Give me that *** wine , you drunken bastard”
I take the wine , drink some.
As we leave the friends mother throw a bottle which almost catches his head .
Dream ends. [/spoiler]

I have an identical sibling and growing up we had me shared dreams. My fraternal sister and I had them occassionally but much less often. The shared dreams with both of them waned substantially around age 10.

Other than those dreams of which I have essentially no recollection, there have been two notable shared dreams in my life.

The first:

[i]I found myself in a forest at dusk. The trees were coniferous and tall. They may have been sequoias. As I was walking I became lucid. (At this time in my life I was around 14 or 15. I had just learned about lucid dreaming and had been having lucid dreams 3 or 4 nights a week for the last few months. For a while I had been - for the fun of it - been trying to have a shared dream. I had attatched myself to the notion that I could do this by memorizing a friends phone number, finding a phone, and dialing. The last week or so I had been stuck on finding a phone. I would get to one and it would be disconnected. Or I would get distracted and look away and it would disappear. Or I would forget the number. Or wake up just as I saw one. I was frustrated, but determined. It felt like the universe was conspiring against me, but everytime I failed I became more stubborn.) After becoming lucid I immediately set off to find a phone. I wandered for what felt like an hour in the forest. It felt so surreal - vivid and dreamlike at once. Eventually I came across a small lot of cabins nestled between the trees. They were wooden and stilted. I went over to the nearest one and entered, willing a phone to be inside. I walked through the living which was dark and furnished minimally. I didn’t pay much attention to it. The kitchen across the room was brightly lit - it had yellow wallpaper with a canary yellow emblem pattern. It looked like a crest but I didnt look closely - I headed straight to the phone. I was so focused I didn’t even note the color. It mightve been a shade of green. I picked up the phone and dialed the number. It rang. Once, twice, three times, four times… And then I woke up. I lay in bed and sighed in dissappointment. Later I met my friend to talk before class. Holding on to the last thread of hope that shared dreams were still possible (if they were ever real in the first place) I asked her if she remembered her dream last night. She shook her head, then said “Well I just remember hearing a phone ringing before I woke up.” Unfortunately after that I gradually lucid dreamed leas and less, almost as if some force was limiting me. [i]

The second one was much more recent, and not lucid. It goes as follows:
[i]I had a false awakening. My boyfriend was laying next to me in bed. I felt like something was off. I slowly “woke up” as I tried to place the feeling. Then my heart wrenched - someone was watching us. I looked in the corner and saw a shadowy figure hunched over. I shook my boyfriend to wake him up - it felt so real. I tried to wake up. I said “Do you see it? In the corner? There’s something in the corner.” Then we held each other. I feel back asleep. Later when we woke up I told him I had a strange, freaky dream. He said “Me too. I dreamed we both saw something in the corner.” That was freaky. I really prefer to believe it was a shared nightmare than that there was actually something there.

I have an identical sibling and growing up we had me shared dreams. My fraternal sister and I had them occassionally but much less often. The shared dreams with both of them waned substantially around age 10.

Other than those dreams of which I have essentially no recollection, there have been two notable shared dreams in my life.

The first:

I found myself in a forest at dusk. The trees were coniferous and tall. They may have been sequoias. As I was walking I became lucid. (At this time in my life I was around 14 or 15. I had just learned about lucid dreaming and had been having lucid dreams 3 or 4 nights a week for the last few months. For a while I had been - for the fun of it - been trying to have a shared dream. I had attatched myself to the notion that I could do this by memorizing a friends phone number, finding a phone, and dialing. The last week or so I had been stuck on finding a phone. I would get to one and it would be disconnected. Or I would get distracted and look away and it would disappear. Or I would forget the number. Or wake up just as I saw one. I was frustrated, but determined. It felt like the universe was conspiring against me, but everytime I failed I became more stubborn.) After becoming lucid I immediately set off to find a phone. I wandered for what felt like an hour in the forest. It felt so surreal - vivid and dreamlike at once. Eventually I came across a small lot of cabins nestled between the trees. They were wooden and stilted. I went over to the nearest one and entered, willing a phone to be inside. I walked through the living which was dark and furnished minimally. I didn’t pay much attention to it. The kitchen across the room was brightly lit - it had yellow wallpaper with a canary yellow emblem pattern. It looked like a crest but I didnt look closely - I headed straight to the phone. I was so focused I didn’t even note the color. It mightve been a shade of green. I picked up the phone and dialed the number. It rang. Once, twice, three times, four times… And then I woke up. I lay in bed and sighed in dissappointment. Later I met my friend to talk before class. Holding on to the last thread of hope that shared dreams were still possible (if they were ever real in the first place) I asked her if she remembered her dream last night. She shook her head, then said “Well I just remember hearing a phone ringing before I woke up.” Unfortunately after that I gradually lucid dreamed leas and less, almost as if some force was limiting me.

The second one was much more recent, and not lucid. It goes as follows:

I had a false awakening. My boyfriend was laying next to me in bed. I felt like something was off. I slowly “woke up” as I tried to place the feeling. Then my heart wrenched - someone was watching us. I looked in the corner and saw a shadowy figure hunched over. I shook my boyfriend to wake him up - it felt so real. I tried to wake up. I said “Do you see it? In the corner? There’s something in the corner.” Then we held each other. I feel back asleep. Later when we woke up I told him I had a strange, freaky dream. He said “Me too. I dreamed we both saw something in the corner.” That was freaky. I really prefer to believe it was a shared nightmare than that there was actually something there.

Okay, I never dream about actual people.
Except this one friend, who I dream about 2/15 dreams? When ever he shows up I almost always become lucid. Not every lucid dream has him in it, maybe 3/6 LDs.
He says he LDs, but he wont talk about his dreams with me. Is it possible he is consciously awakening me and we are sharing dreams or merging?

Have any reoccurring dream friends?? Like that ONE person who is always in your dreams.